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PC-BSD becomes TrueOS
- crudbug 10y agoWell and good. The ® slapped everywhere is very annoying.
- hackernews2000 10y agoIndeed. I don't understand why they do that (it was already like that before the brand change). It just scares away many potential users (people who have already used Linux, like open source etc.). It's not like their management is clueless either. The project is sponsored by an advanced technology company (https://www.ixsystems.com/ https://www.ixsystems.com/).
- a012 10y agoTheir website isn't mobile friendly either: https://i.imgur.com/eZn7HEW.png https://i.imgur.com/eZn7HEW.png note that fucking floating share buttons.
- satysin 10y agoThere are 21 ® on the front page alone! Insanity.
- anexprogrammer 10y agopc-bsd.org (Just as OTT with ®) still seems to think TrueOS is the server flavour only. You'd think they'd make sure a rebrand shows on both sites at same time. iX don't have ® all over the place on their own site, or FreeNAS so it must be a PC-BSD choice.
- PhantomGremlin 10y agopc-bsd.org Huh? Did you type that correctly? It takes me to a site titled SAMAA TV, that has lots of Arabic on it. Something from Pakistan? Edit: apparently the computer centric site is http://pcbsd.org/ http://pcbsd.org/
- 4ad 10y agoSo why would one want to use TrueOS instead of FreeBSD? When it was still called PC-BSD some people claimed ease of use, but I never understood that; since it used the same ports as FreeBSD, you could install the same ports or packages on FreeBSD. Now they abandoned this desktop focus. So what is the selling point here?
- drewg123 10y agoI use PC-BSD on my desktop. The reason that I chose it over FreeBSD is due to their upgrade process and their use of ZFS boot environments (beadm). And the fact that X "just worked" with their installer. In terms of packages and uppdates: The way a pkg update on FreeBSD goes is that you do pkg-update && pkg-upgrade, and it updates your packages in place. In PC-BSD, it makes a new clone of your current root environment, and does the upgrade there. It makes this the new boot environment, and at reboot, you boot into the updated system. This is much cleaner, and allows you to easily roll back in the rare event of something blowing up. I hope TrueOS keeps this. Ugh, The name reminds me of Tru64 from DEC in the 90s..
- NetStrikeForce 10y ago> It makes this the new boot environment, and at reboot, you boot into the updated system. So you have to reboot to apply the changes? Sounds familiar :)
- 4ad 10y ago> beadm This is how it works in FreeBSD too. At least that's how I do it. beadm is not mandatory, nor is used "by default", but it is there, it's the only way I update. So I see no advantage here.
- snvzz 10y agoHow pretentious can they be.
- cptskippy 10y ago"Although it's a household name for so many" I chucked when I read that.
- koolba 10y agoHow long till it's forked and prefixed with "TheOne"?
- yellowapple 10y agoAt that point, I'd half expect it to be named "NeOS".
- kchoudhu 10y agoWait -- TrueOS follows FreeBSD-CURRENT? How...brave.
- syoc 10y agoThou shalt have no other OS before Temple OS. The One True OS.
- bitwize 10y agoGod said so. He also said: zygote elephant narcissism verify plunge rackmount giraffe helicopter amazing turkey sociable
- da_n 10y agoI have respect for BSD and am very thankful that there is more than just Linux (my preferred OS). One thing that I've noticed is that, warranted or not, a lot of BSD users seem to suffer from an inferiority complex. On some BSD podcasts I listen to for example, hosts and guests often drop little jabs at Linux etc, it seems very immature and unnecessary. This naming choice puts me off more than anything, might as well have called it SuperiorOS or BestOS, but I wish it luck.
- rsync 10y agoWhy would this OS (or any OS) follow FreeBSD-current ? This is negative because it just encourages the bad practice on the part of FreeBSD to release 2 or 3 or 4 stable point releases, based on the assumption that "anyone who wants anything should just use -current". At some point there will be the (absurd) necessity to start bundling a "super current" release because there has to be a test platform, but at the same time everyone is using -current in production and you can't break it too badly. Or I guess they can just break it badly one of these times and a lot of people get screwed. There is a deep, deep cultural problem in FreeBSD that just doesn't ever go away and it can be summed up by saying: FreeBSD is an OS by, and for, FreeBSD developers.
- kchoudhu 10y agoWe'll be up to 5 point releases when 11 hits in a few weeks. Sayeth the new arrival to FreeBSD org: "What the fuck, which one am I supposed to use?" LATEST RELEASES Production: 10.3, 10.2, 10.1, 9.3 Upcoming: 11.0 Edit: To be fair, it's worth mentioning that 10.2, 10.1 and 9.3 will sunset on 1/1/2017, so we'll be left with a slightly more sane set of production releases at that point.
- ksec 10y agoI was going to ask if you could pinpoint a more precise problem, but then I read your username rsync, given the amount of ZFS you used this is properly something quite true.
- ksec 10y agoWhat happened to NextBSD that ixsystem propose not long ago.
- crest 10y agoIIRC NextBSD is just an internal branch integrating some Apple technology including a launchd port and in-kernel Mach IPC.