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Ken, Unix and Games (2001)

36 points by kercker 10y ago

okket 10y ago
Sign 'o' the Times: The Bell Labs website does not load in recent stable Chrome because This server's certificate chain is incomplete. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.bell-labs.com https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.bell-labs... Once mighty ruling company, setting standards for the world now has problems following. Also: Nokia. Sorry for the meta.
- eriknstr 10y ago
  >Also: Nokia If not for your comment, I probably would not have noticed the favicon. I Google'd Nokia Bell Labs and found that Nokia Bell Labs is now the name of Bell Labs. Apparently, according to the Wikipedia article on Bell Labs [0], Bell Labs was acquired by Nokia some time in 2016. This is news to me. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs
- brudgers 10y ago
  The site isn't broken in Firefox or Chromium. Maybe the behavior that the changes to Chrome signal a willingness to break the open web.
  - okket 10y ago
    It is clearly a violation of the TLS RFC 5246 [1], page 47, Server Certificate -> certificate_list. You may only omit the root, but otherwise must supply all parts of the certificate chain. [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246
    - brudgers 10y ago
      Chrome is, in turn, in violation of the robustness principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle
      - okket 10y ago
        When it comes to security/TLS, robustness in the sense of "In doubt accept things and not error" is not what you want. Seriously.
        brudgers 10y ago
        When it comes to Dennis Ritchie's home page, yes.
qwertyuiop924 10y ago
It is somewhat creepy to realize that I'm looking at a dead man's website.
- deleted 10y ago
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- gumby 10y ago
  What makes it different from reading a book by a dead author? I ask this question genuinely because neither case seems particularly weird to me, but watching a film and realizing that "everyone in this frame is dead" or "everyone who worked on this film in any way is dead" is somewhat creepy to me. The difference is weird. Which is why I ask about what seems creepy to you. Could it be that a web page feels like a dialogue?
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    Because if you go the the main page, it IS a conversation: He's saying, "I'm DMR, this is where I work, and these are some of the things I've done." The only difference from another personal webpage is sign at the top that tells you that the person who's talking to you is dead. It's a piece that, unlike a book, or the essay proper, wasn't designed to outlive it's author.

36 points by kercker 10y ago

okket 10y ago

Sign 'o' the Times: The Bell Labs website does not load in recent stable Chrome because This server's certificate chain is incomplete. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.bell-labs.com https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.bell-labs... Once mighty ruling company, setting standards for the world now has problems following. Also: Nokia. Sorry for the meta.

eriknstr 10y ago
>Also: Nokia If not for your comment, I probably would not have noticed the favicon. I Google'd Nokia Bell Labs and found that Nokia Bell Labs is now the name of Bell Labs. Apparently, according to the Wikipedia article on Bell Labs [0], Bell Labs was acquired by Nokia some time in 2016. This is news to me. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs
brudgers 10y ago
The site isn't broken in Firefox or Chromium. Maybe the behavior that the changes to Chrome signal a willingness to break the open web.
- okket 10y ago
  It is clearly a violation of the TLS RFC 5246 [1], page 47, Server Certificate -> certificate_list. You may only omit the root, but otherwise must supply all parts of the certificate chain. [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246
  - brudgers 10y ago
    Chrome is, in turn, in violation of the robustness principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle
    - okket 10y ago
      When it comes to security/TLS, robustness in the sense of "In doubt accept things and not error" is not what you want. Seriously.
      - brudgers 10y ago
        When it comes to Dennis Ritchie's home page, yes.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago

It is somewhat creepy to realize that I'm looking at a dead man's website.

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gumby 10y ago
What makes it different from reading a book by a dead author? I ask this question genuinely because neither case seems particularly weird to me, but watching a film and realizing that "everyone in this frame is dead" or "everyone who worked on this film in any way is dead" is somewhat creepy to me. The difference is weird. Which is why I ask about what seems creepy to you. Could it be that a web page feels like a dialogue?
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Because if you go the the main page, it IS a conversation: He's saying, "I'm DMR, this is where I work, and these are some of the things I've done." The only difference from another personal webpage is sign at the top that tells you that the person who's talking to you is dead. It's a piece that, unlike a book, or the essay proper, wasn't designed to outlive it's author.