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> They don't want students to have any spaces where they feel safe/accepted? That's weird. Why would a student need a special space to feel safe/accepted? Does

> They don't want students to have any spaces where they feel safe/accepted? That's weird. Why would a student need a special space to feel safe/accepted? Doesn't the university already provide students basic safety?

sp332 10y ago
No, students get harassed and raped at a pretty high rate. And suicide is the #2 cause of death among young adults. Physical security and "acceptance" is a big public health issue.
- djrogers 10y ago
  thays just not true - the rate of rape and sexual assault is lower for college students (at 6.1 per 1,000) than for non-students (7.6 per 1,000). [1] http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/14/campus-rape-uva-crisis-rolling-stone-politics-column/20397277/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/14/campus-rape...
  - sp332 10y ago
    The cited study: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf It points out that students are very unlikely to report rape to the police, but somehow assumes that they will answer questions about it on a survey. It also shows wide variations from one year to another. It's not a bad study, but the data doesn't really inspire confidence. Edit: from page 3 "From 1997 to 2013, females ages 18 to 24 consistently experienced higher rates of rape and sexual assault than females in other age brackets." and from page 4: "However, there was no significant difference in the rates of female students and nonstudents who experienced attempted rape or other sexual assault. This suggests that differences in the rates of completed rape largely accounted for differences in the overall rates of rape and sexual assault between students and nonstudents."
  - panglott 10y ago
    The Instapundit is attempting to debunk public-health assessments of the incidence of sexual assault with crime-report data, when a key argument of anti-rape activists is that rape/sexual assault largely goes unreported. And given the way that women are treated who make allegations of domestic violence, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, I would not be surprised if that is correct.
    - sp332 10y ago
      The study cited in that link (which I link directly below) says 20% of students who admitted to being raped said they reported it to police, compared to 32% of non-students.
panglott 10y ago
You'd think that students should be able to feel safe at least somewhere on campus! But apparently they don't accept that. I certainly understand and agree with the need for the university as a whole being a place where students with differing views and identities discuss and debate each other. But it is also necessary to the spirit of inquiry for like-minded people to be able to enjoy the freedom of association and speech. Just as I wouldn't want certain "safe spaces" to overtake the university as a whole, I wouldn't want them to be eliminated either.

sp332 10y ago

No, students get harassed and raped at a pretty high rate. And suicide is the #2 cause of death among young adults. Physical security and "acceptance" is a big public health issue.

djrogers 10y ago
thays just not true - the rate of rape and sexual assault is lower for college students (at 6.1 per 1,000) than for non-students (7.6 per 1,000). [1] http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/14/campus-rape-uva-crisis-rolling-stone-politics-column/20397277/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/14/campus-rape...
- sp332 10y ago
  The cited study: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf It points out that students are very unlikely to report rape to the police, but somehow assumes that they will answer questions about it on a survey. It also shows wide variations from one year to another. It's not a bad study, but the data doesn't really inspire confidence. Edit: from page 3 "From 1997 to 2013, females ages 18 to 24 consistently experienced higher rates of rape and sexual assault than females in other age brackets." and from page 4: "However, there was no significant difference in the rates of female students and nonstudents who experienced attempted rape or other sexual assault. This suggests that differences in the rates of completed rape largely accounted for differences in the overall rates of rape and sexual assault between students and nonstudents."
- panglott 10y ago
  The Instapundit is attempting to debunk public-health assessments of the incidence of sexual assault with crime-report data, when a key argument of anti-rape activists is that rape/sexual assault largely goes unreported. And given the way that women are treated who make allegations of domestic violence, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, I would not be surprised if that is correct.
  - sp332 10y ago
    The study cited in that link (which I link directly below) says 20% of students who admitted to being raped said they reported it to police, compared to 32% of non-students.

panglott 10y ago

You'd think that students should be able to feel safe at least somewhere on campus! But apparently they don't accept that. I certainly understand and agree with the need for the university as a whole being a place where students with differing views and identities discuss and debate each other. But it is also necessary to the spirit of inquiry for like-minded people to be able to enjoy the freedom of association and speech. Just as I wouldn't want certain "safe spaces" to overtake the university as a whole, I wouldn't want them to be eliminated either.