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Where is the safety now? I think you would be able to move much faster than traditional Companies and be safe, Open Sourcing would start to remove the veil of

Where is the safety now? I think you would be able to move much faster than traditional Companies and be safe, Open Sourcing would start to remove the veil of Patents that prevent people from actually getting products they need. Imagine an open source 3d printable epinephrine injector that was refillable...or with enough public support purchasing other patents to drugs and OS'ing that lot eliminating the burn the US pricing method, by flooding the market with comparable items synthesized as needed.

vonmoltke 10y ago
You are giving way too much credit to patents for the state of the pharmaceutical market. Even if you were given all of the relevant IP free and unrestricted it would still cost at least a couple hundred million to bring it to market, assuming you already have the facilities to create and manufacture the compound. On top of that. things like "open source 3d printable epinephrine injector[s]" are a very dangerous pipe dream. While there is certainly regulatory capture involved, most of the regulations relating to development, manufacturing, and distribution of pharmaceuticals and medical devices are in place for good reasons.
- 2close4comfort 10y ago
  to the control the market...
  - Ralfp 10y ago
    Yes. Do you know what happens when drug market isn't controlled? You end with drugs that are roughtly what they are declared, but upon analysis turn to contain few percent of impurities that may be toxic or plainly fatal. This is everyday of illegal drug import from east to west in Europe, but thanks to Shengen EU's border saw some tightening in recent years, and so number of "cheaper alternative drugs" is at minimum these days.
    - 2close4comfort 10y ago
      This is the VERY problem with my solution. And one I have no good answer to. If I do find the answer though and you see this on the market think of me or the person smarter than me who figured this out.
- 2close4comfort 10y ago
  IP? really I would think that jabbing yourself with a needle and emptying a vial is pretty easy and probably could be done MUCH better than it is currently. Single use is wasteful why not make the system refillable and disabled after use.

vonmoltke 10y ago

You are giving way too much credit to patents for the state of the pharmaceutical market. Even if you were given all of the relevant IP free and unrestricted it would still cost at least a couple hundred million to bring it to market, assuming you already have the facilities to create and manufacture the compound. On top of that. things like "open source 3d printable epinephrine injector[s]" are a very dangerous pipe dream. While there is certainly regulatory capture involved, most of the regulations relating to development, manufacturing, and distribution of pharmaceuticals and medical devices are in place for good reasons.

2close4comfort 10y ago
to the control the market...
- Ralfp 10y ago
  Yes. Do you know what happens when drug market isn't controlled? You end with drugs that are roughtly what they are declared, but upon analysis turn to contain few percent of impurities that may be toxic or plainly fatal. This is everyday of illegal drug import from east to west in Europe, but thanks to Shengen EU's border saw some tightening in recent years, and so number of "cheaper alternative drugs" is at minimum these days.
  - 2close4comfort 10y ago
    This is the VERY problem with my solution. And one I have no good answer to. If I do find the answer though and you see this on the market think of me or the person smarter than me who figured this out.
2close4comfort 10y ago
IP? really I would think that jabbing yourself with a needle and emptying a vial is pretty easy and probably could be done MUCH better than it is currently. Single use is wasteful why not make the system refillable and disabled after use.