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Surely you know the difference between a fop and a homosexual. There could be some crossover, or not. Men have commonly been called foppish or effeminate as a
by DanielBMarkham 10y ago
Surely you know the difference between a fop and a homosexual. There could be some crossover, or not.
Men have commonly been called foppish or effeminate as a way to insult them. It has absolutely zero to do with homosexuality. I guess the closest we have is the metrosexual, or lumbersexual, but our society is heterogeneous. Back then there was just one way to look rich, urbane, and sharp -- and country, colonial fobs in the hinterlands didn't like it so much. The feelings were mutual.
- Cogito 10y agoI should have been more clear - I don't think the article was saying there was a 'gay aspect' (insomuch as a definite homosexual aspect) at all, I was just using the parent comment's language to contrast what was claimed and what was actually in the article. In fact, the article only makes passing reference to homosexuality, saying Whether these critiques of macaronis insinuated homosexuality is debated. Certainly it is difficult to generalize one way or other: though some commentators appeared to frame macaronis in terms of same-sex attraction, not all did. My main point was that the article was citing actual discourse from the time, and that was not at all consistent with a city vs country narrative. [edit] clarified further