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https://stallman.org/facebook.html https://stallman.org/facebook.html

by ffggvv 10y ago

dx034 10y ago
Most of that are valid business decisions. Just because you disagree doesn't mean that FB is shady. You're free not to use their service. Political censorship is often mentioned in these discussions, and it's exactly what I meant with controversial. I don't think there's a way to satisfy everyone. Telegram doesn't censor and they're known to be the favourite tool for many terrorists to communicate, which is something that would probably upset more FB users than censoring critical posts. The tax policy could be different, but Facebook is no other than most American companies. Other services will only have different policies if they are either not based in the U.S. or don't make enough money abroad to justify these constructs. It's the job of the Government to introduce more sensible tax laws, not using Facebook won't change anything.
overcast 10y ago
What's the issue with using your "real name"? Honestly I think that should be the policy more places, so people aren't hiding behind their online personas.
- ffggvv 10y ago
  To defend minorities. Image a group of transgenders on facebook that want to talk about they daily lives, social relations, etc. With pseudo-anonymous accounts they can do that freely, on facebook they risk to be vandalized, insulted, etc.
  - dopu 10y ago
    I generally agree with Stallman here, in that people should be allowed to use pseudonyms, but I often wonder if the pseudonymity that places like Twitter, reddit et al. provide just serves to facilitate widespread abuse and harassment. Online harassment is a pretty big problem, especially against women. [0] [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/08/online-harassment-of-women-at-risk-of-becoming-established-norm-study https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/08/online-...
    - ffggvv 10y ago
      You can hide online. I'm more worried about offline abuse (losing job, being persecuted, being beaten, etc.). Yes online harassment is a BIG problem but forcing to reveal your identity may not be the best solution.

https://stallman.org/facebook.html https://stallman.org/facebook.html

by ffggvv 10y ago

https://stallman.org/facebook.html https://stallman.org/facebook.html

dx034 10y ago

Most of that are valid business decisions. Just because you disagree doesn't mean that FB is shady. You're free not to use their service. Political censorship is often mentioned in these discussions, and it's exactly what I meant with controversial. I don't think there's a way to satisfy everyone. Telegram doesn't censor and they're known to be the favourite tool for many terrorists to communicate, which is something that would probably upset more FB users than censoring critical posts. The tax policy could be different, but Facebook is no other than most American companies. Other services will only have different policies if they are either not based in the U.S. or don't make enough money abroad to justify these constructs. It's the job of the Government to introduce more sensible tax laws, not using Facebook won't change anything.

overcast 10y ago

What's the issue with using your "real name"? Honestly I think that should be the policy more places, so people aren't hiding behind their online personas.

ffggvv 10y ago
To defend minorities. Image a group of transgenders on facebook that want to talk about they daily lives, social relations, etc. With pseudo-anonymous accounts they can do that freely, on facebook they risk to be vandalized, insulted, etc.
- dopu 10y ago
  I generally agree with Stallman here, in that people should be allowed to use pseudonyms, but I often wonder if the pseudonymity that places like Twitter, reddit et al. provide just serves to facilitate widespread abuse and harassment. Online harassment is a pretty big problem, especially against women. [0] [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/08/online-harassment-of-women-at-risk-of-becoming-established-norm-study https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/08/online-...
  - ffggvv 10y ago
    You can hide online. I'm more worried about offline abuse (losing job, being persecuted, being beaten, etc.). Yes online harassment is a BIG problem but forcing to reveal your identity may not be the best solution.