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I think that calling this "whataboutism" is wrong. It is good to weigh the actual risk something presents and putting it into perspective. The truth is that te
by RealityVoid 10y ago
I think that calling this "whataboutism" is wrong. It is good to weigh the actual risk something presents and putting it into perspective.
The truth is that terrorism is a minor threat compared to others in our life yet a disproportionate amount of effort and fear stems from it. Your assertion that they would eventually take over is an overstatement. There have been countries under occupation with strong resistance movements that were orders of magnitude more active and disruptive and had far more popular support than the terrorist threat we are facing now, and those movements by themselves did not manage taking over, it seems unlikely terrorists would manage this now.
> (Compare for example with the reaction to the AIDS epidemics in the early 1980s. The lazy whatabout-ist could have said (and indeed did say): "Oh AIDS just affects a few gays and needle-sharing heroin addicts, whatabout the orders of magnitude more who die of the flu and cancer, no need to worry about AIDS".)
In a way, this example is also flawed. If, a comparatively similar amount of effort and research would have gone into developing cures and treatments for the other diseases, the benefits would have also been, probably, order of magnitudes greater. Would that not have been a logically superior choice?
On the other hand, I find very interesting you approaching this as a disease that has to be controlled and quarantined so it does not spread, it might have some merit. But we are not proposing ignoring the issue, but acting in a way proportional to its actual threat level, some way that the costs of acting are balanced with its actual benefits. I will give you that terroristic attacks are most costly not because of human lived but because of, well, spreading terror. I we could all see the threats as relatively minor to other threats, maybe their effects would be diminished. I think that they would loose their effect if they become common enough, because people get used to them and continue their lived, same way people continue their lives in war zones.Then, the precieved risk(or at least, the fear of this risk) would be smaller even if the risk itself would be higher.
- mafribe 10y agoIf, a comparatively similar amount of effort and research would have gone into developing cures and treatments for the other diseases, the benefits would have also been, probably, order of magnitudes greater. I don't believe that this is true. AIDS was a major threat in the early 1980s.
- RealityVoid 10y agoSorry, I was ambiguous when expressing my ideas. I'm not trying to debate an actual historical fact or to say that resources were misplaced in curing AIDS. I trust you the actual importance placed on AIDS was merited. I'm rather trying to debate that a more common affliction should have priority over a less common one and thus, pointing out that efforts is disproportionately spent in a field compared to another it not whattaboutism. I've been trying to illustrate that under the assumption that some affliction _would_ be an order of magnitude more common than another (as the whattaboutists in your AIDS illustration assert). Adding to this the assumption that results would be proportional with exerted effort for both affliction treatments (not always true), it would make greater sense to expend more effort for the more common one, thus the percentage an affliction is present compared to another does matter. Granted, there are a number of assumptions to my illustration, and in particular cases they can be true or false, but it does prove that the percentage of population a certain issue affects does deserve a part in the equation of how much effort we should expend into fixing some situation and can not be readily excluded from the conversation by simply shouting "whattaboutism".