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Nice. Advocating the torture and murder of coders working for the US government.

by ascorbic 10y ago

duncan_bayne 10y ago
I thought working for a Government department was already widely recognised as a form of torture ;)
- lostboys67 10y ago
  Everyone has read the laudryfiles right ;-)
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mSparks 10y ago
One word for you. Manning. If the US has that little respect for its own citizens. Why should these guys expect better treatment from rest of the world?
- ascorbic 10y ago
  Right... So because the US government treats some people badly, all of its employees are fair game for torture and murder. Which other countries' civil servants would you also like to see killed?
  - mSparks 10y ago
    That isn't what I said at all and you know it. We're not talking about "some people the US government employs". We're talking about cyber criminals of the highest order of the kind the US wants everyone to believe even Guantanamo bay and the raft of torture there is too good for, committing the kind of crimes that attract multiple life sentences. Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition and subject them to the same fate similar European citizens have been subject too. I'm sure they tell themselves "its OK cos its patriotic". Rest of the world doesn't/shouldn't see it that way.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      > Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition Well, for one, because extradition is always requested, not ordered.
      - mSparks 10y ago
        Yeah.... right.. https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/ https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/
        dragonwriter 10y ago
        Rendition is a radically different thing than extradition. Hence why different words are used for them.
        mSparks 10y ago
        yeah. And these days the US just goes straight for the hellfire fired from a drone. do unto others as you would have done unto you. So still missing an explanation of why they should expect less.
lostboys67 10y ago
Who probably have PPW licences

Nice. Advocating the torture and murder of coders working for the US government.

duncan_bayne 10y ago

I thought working for a Government department was already widely recognised as a form of torture ;)

lostboys67 10y ago
Everyone has read the laudryfiles right ;-)

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mSparks 10y ago

One word for you. Manning. If the US has that little respect for its own citizens. Why should these guys expect better treatment from rest of the world?

ascorbic 10y ago
Right... So because the US government treats some people badly, all of its employees are fair game for torture and murder. Which other countries' civil servants would you also like to see killed?
- mSparks 10y ago
  That isn't what I said at all and you know it. We're not talking about "some people the US government employs". We're talking about cyber criminals of the highest order of the kind the US wants everyone to believe even Guantanamo bay and the raft of torture there is too good for, committing the kind of crimes that attract multiple life sentences. Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition and subject them to the same fate similar European citizens have been subject too. I'm sure they tell themselves "its OK cos its patriotic". Rest of the world doesn't/shouldn't see it that way.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition Well, for one, because extradition is always requested, not ordered.
    - mSparks 10y ago
      Yeah.... right.. https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/ https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/
      - dragonwriter 10y ago
        Rendition is a radically different thing than extradition. Hence why different words are used for them.
        mSparks 10y ago
        yeah. And these days the US just goes straight for the hellfire fired from a drone. do unto others as you would have done unto you. So still missing an explanation of why they should expect less.

lostboys67 10y ago

Who probably have PPW licences