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TLDR: Assumptions: "The developers of the malware are leading experts in the area of Linux, Network and Security development." and "They were discovered and not

by pulse7 10y ago

TLDR: Assumptions: "The developers of the malware are leading experts in the area of Linux, Network and Security development." and "They were discovered and not trained."

mSparks 10y ago
From reading the spec. pretty sure (at least to a level of certainty greater than Ross Ulbricht being DPR) the poster actually identified them. just didnt go all the way and name names in the post. Can only hope he sends the full analysis to the various interested governments who want to string the scum that wrote the malware up by the balls. I guess Germany is pretty mad with their antics and the most likely to push for an international arrest warrant. But probably better for everyone if its a country similar to the US that doesnt have a problem with torture and mutilation. Maybe Pakistan could save the world a lot of trouble and drone strike their terrorist arses. full addresses available in the OPM hack. Can but dream anyway. (this message explicitly for the excusers of recent US behaviour) But at the very least now they live in fear of getting exactly what they deserve.
- ascorbic 10y ago
  Nice. Advocating the torture and murder of coders working for the US government.
  - duncan_bayne 10y ago
    I thought working for a Government department was already widely recognised as a form of torture ;)
    - lostboys67 10y ago
      Everyone has read the laudryfiles right ;-)
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  - mSparks 10y ago
    One word for you. Manning. If the US has that little respect for its own citizens. Why should these guys expect better treatment from rest of the world?
    - ascorbic 10y ago
      Right... So because the US government treats some people badly, all of its employees are fair game for torture and murder. Which other countries' civil servants would you also like to see killed?
      - mSparks 10y ago
        That isn't what I said at all and you know it. We're not talking about "some people the US government employs". We're talking about cyber criminals of the highest order of the kind the US wants everyone to believe even Guantanamo bay and the raft of torture there is too good for, committing the kind of crimes that attract multiple life sentences. Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition and subject them to the same fate similar European citizens have been subject too. I'm sure they tell themselves "its OK cos its patriotic". Rest of the world doesn't/shouldn't see it that way.
        dragonwriter 10y ago
        > Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition Well, for one, because extradition is always requested, not ordered.
        mSparks 10y ago
        Yeah.... right.. https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/ https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/
        dragonwriter 10y ago
        Rendition is a radically different thing than extradition. Hence why different words are used for them.
  - lostboys67 10y ago
    Who probably have PPW licences
- CoryG89 10y ago
  I also suspect the author may have a possible or likely identification of some programmer(s) involved. While I am no fan of some of the things the US does, I don't bear these programmers the type of ill will that your encouragements of violence suggest. I think it's foolish to believe that every (sufficiently wealthy) government on earth doesn't have their own "Equation Group" writing stuff like this (or at least trying to).
  - mSparks 10y ago
    >I don't bear these programmers the type of ill will that your encouragements of violence suggest. Neither do I particularly. I was just suspending my general disbelief for a moment and judging "the US" by its own standards.

by pulse7 10y ago

TLDR: Assumptions: "The developers of the malware are leading experts in the area of Linux, Network and Security development." and "They were discovered and not trained."

mSparks 10y ago

From reading the spec. pretty sure (at least to a level of certainty greater than Ross Ulbricht being DPR) the poster actually identified them. just didnt go all the way and name names in the post. Can only hope he sends the full analysis to the various interested governments who want to string the scum that wrote the malware up by the balls. I guess Germany is pretty mad with their antics and the most likely to push for an international arrest warrant. But probably better for everyone if its a country similar to the US that doesnt have a problem with torture and mutilation. Maybe Pakistan could save the world a lot of trouble and drone strike their terrorist arses. full addresses available in the OPM hack. Can but dream anyway. (this message explicitly for the excusers of recent US behaviour) But at the very least now they live in fear of getting exactly what they deserve.

ascorbic 10y ago
Nice. Advocating the torture and murder of coders working for the US government.
- duncan_bayne 10y ago
  I thought working for a Government department was already widely recognised as a form of torture ;)
  - lostboys67 10y ago
    Everyone has read the laudryfiles right ;-)
- deleted 10y ago
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- mSparks 10y ago
  One word for you. Manning. If the US has that little respect for its own citizens. Why should these guys expect better treatment from rest of the world?
  - ascorbic 10y ago
    Right... So because the US government treats some people badly, all of its employees are fair game for torture and murder. Which other countries' civil servants would you also like to see killed?
    - mSparks 10y ago
      That isn't what I said at all and you know it. We're not talking about "some people the US government employs". We're talking about cyber criminals of the highest order of the kind the US wants everyone to believe even Guantanamo bay and the raft of torture there is too good for, committing the kind of crimes that attract multiple life sentences. Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition and subject them to the same fate similar European citizens have been subject too. I'm sure they tell themselves "its OK cos its patriotic". Rest of the world doesn't/shouldn't see it that way.
      - dragonwriter 10y ago
        > Why shouldn't somewhere like Germany order their extradition Well, for one, because extradition is always requested, not ordered.
        mSparks 10y ago
        Yeah.... right.. https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/ https://www.rt.com/news/166028-snowden-rendition-plot-cia/
        dragonwriter 10y ago
        Rendition is a radically different thing than extradition. Hence why different words are used for them.
- lostboys67 10y ago
  Who probably have PPW licences
CoryG89 10y ago
I also suspect the author may have a possible or likely identification of some programmer(s) involved. While I am no fan of some of the things the US does, I don't bear these programmers the type of ill will that your encouragements of violence suggest. I think it's foolish to believe that every (sufficiently wealthy) government on earth doesn't have their own "Equation Group" writing stuff like this (or at least trying to).
- mSparks 10y ago
  >I don't bear these programmers the type of ill will that your encouragements of violence suggest. Neither do I particularly. I was just suspending my general disbelief for a moment and judging "the US" by its own standards.