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You overestimate how the "basic human right" is treated. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights has 30 articles, almost every single one was and is being tr

by NhanH 10y ago

You overestimate how the "basic human right" is treated. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights has 30 articles, almost every single one was and is being trampled on everyday.

mseebach 10y ago
Well, an alternative (and more charitable) reading is that these are negative rights. Having the right to internet doesn't mean that someone else has a duty to provide you with a (free) internet connection, it means that forcibly preventing you from procuring an internet connection is not allowed (as opposed to, say, drugs, which you CAN be forcibly prevented from procuring). Compare freedom of expression: Nobody can forcibly prevent you from expressing yourself, but also, nobody has a duty to enable you to express yourself.
- emodendroket 10y ago
  It doesn't seem to be constituted that way according to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access
madaxe_again 10y ago
That and the increasing disdain for human rights in western civilisation, which was supposed to be leading the way. Popular attitudes started to shift on 9/11, and support for "enhanced questioning" and indefinite detention without charge or trial has done nothing but grow, since. We are told practically every day that terrorists, paedophiles, and werewolves (I made that one up) hide behind the shield of human rights, thus threatening us all, and if you're a good citizen you don't need human rights because you've done nothing wrong. The current government in the UK has a manifesto commitment to repeal human rights legislation, and much to the relief of terrified voters, intend to follow through on it. http://www.theweek.co.uk/63635/human-rights-act-will-be-scrapped-government-confirms http://www.theweek.co.uk/63635/human-rights-act-will-be-scra...

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You overestimate how the "basic human right" is treated. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights has 30 articles, almost every single one was and is being tr

by NhanH 10y ago

You overestimate how the "basic human right" is treated. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights has 30 articles, almost every single one was and is being trampled on everyday.

mseebach 10y ago
Well, an alternative (and more charitable) reading is that these are negative rights. Having the right to internet doesn't mean that someone else has a duty to provide you with a (free) internet connection, it means that forcibly preventing you from procuring an internet connection is not allowed (as opposed to, say, drugs, which you CAN be forcibly prevented from procuring). Compare freedom of expression: Nobody can forcibly prevent you from expressing yourself, but also, nobody has a duty to enable you to express yourself.
- emodendroket 10y ago
  It doesn't seem to be constituted that way according to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access
madaxe_again 10y ago
That and the increasing disdain for human rights in western civilisation, which was supposed to be leading the way. Popular attitudes started to shift on 9/11, and support for "enhanced questioning" and indefinite detention without charge or trial has done nothing but grow, since. We are told practically every day that terrorists, paedophiles, and werewolves (I made that one up) hide behind the shield of human rights, thus threatening us all, and if you're a good citizen you don't need human rights because you've done nothing wrong. The current government in the UK has a manifesto commitment to repeal human rights legislation, and much to the relief of terrified voters, intend to follow through on it. http://www.theweek.co.uk/63635/human-rights-act-will-be-scrapped-government-confirms http://www.theweek.co.uk/63635/human-rights-act-will-be-scra...