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Will C# ever start to increase type inference to make it less verbose? Local functions are ok. But why not lambda syntax+inference? Probably still because of ma

Will C# ever start to increase type inference to make it less verbose? Local functions are ok. But why not lambda syntax+inference? Probably still because of making quoted code have ambiguous syntax. But this ends up adding noise and increases the barrier on deciding when to put code into a tiny function. When using C# I'm constantly noticing how much extra code there is. It's just frustrating, and I don't feel like I'm getting a unique benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust). I know F# would be more concise and work just as well. But I know it's not easy extending the existing design decisions. (The tuple story is sad, eh? This was F#'s original design, using structs. Then they made peace with the strange heap allocated framework tuple. And now...? No tuple interop?) Anyways, congrats, C# definitely is the best general dev language commonly accepted at a large amount of companies, especially when factoring in tooling.

snaky 10y ago
> how much extra code there is. It's just frustrating, and I don't feel like I'm getting a unique benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust) Actually you are getting a benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust) - the libraries. Verbose syntax is less complex in regard to writing the code, so more developers write the code. I have no scientific evidence to provide about the fact, but observations speak for themselves. Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from.
- mcsofake 10y ago
  > Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from. Rust was stabilized last year, while Go was released six years ago. It is simply wrong to say that Go has a larger quantity of libraries because it is more verbose. IMHO the Rust ecosystem is surprisingly comprehensive for a language its age.
- MichaelGG 10y ago
  No benefit over F# is what I mean - nothing about .NET requires C# to be verbose. With Rust, there's zero alternative that'll have the same guarantees and performance. So I can put up with the verbosity.

snaky 10y ago

> how much extra code there is. It's just frustrating, and I don't feel like I'm getting a unique benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust) Actually you are getting a benefit in return (unlike, say, in Rust) - the libraries. Verbose syntax is less complex in regard to writing the code, so more developers write the code. I have no scientific evidence to provide about the fact, but observations speak for themselves. Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from.

mcsofake 10y ago
> Compare the quantity of libraries available for Rust and yet another 'overly verbose' language, Go. We can find Go wrapper for almost anything, and often a few to chose from. Rust was stabilized last year, while Go was released six years ago. It is simply wrong to say that Go has a larger quantity of libraries because it is more verbose. IMHO the Rust ecosystem is surprisingly comprehensive for a language its age.
MichaelGG 10y ago
No benefit over F# is what I mean - nothing about .NET requires C# to be verbose. With Rust, there's zero alternative that'll have the same guarantees and performance. So I can put up with the verbosity.