>Delphi does not really involve any "arcane wizardy" for basic applications Agreed. Said as a guy who is not a GUI programming expert - just used VB's earlier

>Delphi does not really involve any "arcane wizardy" for basic applications Agreed. Said as a guy who is not a GUI programming expert - just used VB's earlier versions in real life projects (but more as project manager than dev, on those VB projects), and VB and Delphi (both in multiple versions) and wxPython for some small personal GUI apps. Not had any problems with Delphi that can be called arcane. And Pascal is a pretty straightforward language, and Object Pascal just adds some (mainly OO and GUI and Windows API) stuff on top of that.