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Good comment - a few thoughts: AlphaGo is impressive no doubt but has DeepMind done anything really key to Google's bottom line yet? A lot of the really sweet
by c0g 10y ago
Good comment - a few thoughts:
AlphaGo is impressive no doubt but has DeepMind done anything really key to Google's bottom line yet? A lot of the really sweet stuff they do doesn't have immediate commercial utility that I can see. Apple might be waiting to strike once Google has found the killer app (remember they're never really first at anything and focus holistically on the product).
Apple is benefiting from other companies releasing their research. If everyone but Apple releases the community is nearly as good, and Apple gets the pick of external and internal research while not needing to give up any of their own ideas. I know they send people to conferences and it can be a bit weird talking to someone who won't tell you anything about what they do.
Regarding researchers, I don't know of any top trend setters who've joined but they do have some very good applied ML people through direct- or aqui-hires.
Tl;dr: Apple doing what they usually do and keeping their powder dry/free loading off other's work until they can execute the product.
- davidcgl 10y agoDeepMind reduced Google data center cooling bill by 40% in an experiment. If this effect is real, it probably more than justified the $500m tag Google paid to acquire DeepMind. Google might not have come up with a killer app, but perhaps the real killer app is not in the consumer space. https://deepmind.com/blog https://deepmind.com/blog https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12126298 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12126298
- c0g 10y agoTaking that at face value that's amazing.
- aljones 10y agoup to 40%
- j1vms 10y agoTo be fair, the HN discussion was mostly focused on the lack of substantial details or an actual research paper to back up that claim. Google would probably need to show that only DeepMind, or an equivalent device, would have been presently likely to find the energy savings that it ended up finding.
- ucaetano 10y agoNow extrapolate that to all datacenters in the industry. To all factories, power plants, homes, etc. Imagine you can cut the cooling/heating bill of 1/2 the industrial world by 40%.
- spitfire 10y agoSo apple is choosing to play a prisoners dilemma game and defecting every time.
- c0g 10y agoYeah Tim Cook is the all defector. http://exomemory.wikia.com/wiki/All-Defector http://exomemory.wikia.com/wiki/All-Defector