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Why Women Are No Longer Catching Up to Men on Pay

2 points by taylorbuley 10y ago

rezashirazian 10y ago
Pay rising faster for those who work the most Well at least it's an equal, and somewhat more fair way of discriminating.
CuriouslyC 10y ago
I've seen some research to indicate that a large part of the pay gap between men and women is explained by salary negotiation behavior. This is supported in part by the fact that the pay gap is largest for the high skill, high compensation jobs where negotiation is common.
jshevek 10y ago
"Men make up a bit more than half the full-time workforce, but they account for more than 70 percent of those working 50 hours a week or more." This is why I question whether the 'total pay gap' is an issue worth addressing. Men choose to work more and have more money, women choose to have more time outside of work. Personally I think women are making the more intelligent choice. Maybe we should campaign to convince men to stop working so much and spend more time with families, community, personal development, health....
- belorn 10y ago
  Or maybe we should ask what allows women to make that choice, or what force men to spend that much time on getting money. There might be more to this than an intelligent choice. Maybe we should ask why men write about earning potential in dating profiles while women don't. Why is it that the method of advertising ones dating attractiveness include pay rates for men? And lets not forget to question why there is a cultural acceptance that a woman can be economical dependent on a man, while cultural accepted to shame men who is economical dependent on a woman.
  - jshevek 10y ago
    > There might be more to this than an intelligent choice. Yes, you are correct. I was over-simplifying and over-generalizing to keep my point simple and clear. For some women (and also some men), making less money is a conscious choice that rests on a well considered value system. And for some men (and also some women), going to great lengths to make more money is the result of questionable values and drives. You make interesting observations which are rarely given much consideration by those I have seen using the 'total pay gap' to further their political agenda.

2 points by taylorbuley 10y ago

Pay rising faster for those who work the most Well at least it's an equal, and somewhat more fair way of discriminating.

CuriouslyC 10y ago

I've seen some research to indicate that a large part of the pay gap between men and women is explained by salary negotiation behavior. This is supported in part by the fact that the pay gap is largest for the high skill, high compensation jobs where negotiation is common.

jshevek 10y ago

"Men make up a bit more than half the full-time workforce, but they account for more than 70 percent of those working 50 hours a week or more." This is why I question whether the 'total pay gap' is an issue worth addressing. Men choose to work more and have more money, women choose to have more time outside of work. Personally I think women are making the more intelligent choice. Maybe we should campaign to convince men to stop working so much and spend more time with families, community, personal development, health....

belorn 10y ago
Or maybe we should ask what allows women to make that choice, or what force men to spend that much time on getting money. There might be more to this than an intelligent choice. Maybe we should ask why men write about earning potential in dating profiles while women don't. Why is it that the method of advertising ones dating attractiveness include pay rates for men? And lets not forget to question why there is a cultural acceptance that a woman can be economical dependent on a man, while cultural accepted to shame men who is economical dependent on a woman.
- jshevek 10y ago
  > There might be more to this than an intelligent choice. Yes, you are correct. I was over-simplifying and over-generalizing to keep my point simple and clear. For some women (and also some men), making less money is a conscious choice that rests on a well considered value system. And for some men (and also some women), going to great lengths to make more money is the result of questionable values and drives. You make interesting observations which are rarely given much consideration by those I have seen using the 'total pay gap' to further their political agenda.