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Knee reaping happens a lot in Sambo. Nothing dangerous when practitioners are well educated. Also it is allowed in many of the submission grappling competitions

Knee reaping happens a lot in Sambo. Nothing dangerous when practitioners are well educated. Also it is allowed in many of the submission grappling competitions such as EBI and so far in their few shows I haven't seen anyone had an issue with it. Same way as they allow scissor takedown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwl4Bk_ZHgc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwl4Bk_ZHgc) The problem with not being able to practice a technique in sparring, or "live" with a resisting opponent is that you don't know how good you are when time comes and you have to apply it.

naravara 10y ago
In a real street fight situation you also don't know if the guy is going to shank you, so most arguments about "which style is best" kind of go out the window at that point.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > In a real street fight situation you also don't know if the guy is going to shank you, so most arguments about "which style is best" kind of go out the window at that point. Well, appeal to non-lethal sport competitions to settle those arguments go out the window, but martial styles intended for real use (including lots where the unarmed subset has been popular in sport) tend to teach both techniques for dealing with armed opponents and techniques for using weapons (including, often, things that stand in for improvised weapons) -- because that's a pretty big factor in serious fights. Purely unarmed intended-for-use-in-anger martial arts are a rarity.
- tiatia 10y ago
  Jiu Jitsu is in so far overrated that on the street it has a tremendous disadvantage to take somebody down: His friend will kick you to the head when lying down (source: personal experience in the ground position) On of the advantages of old style MA like Karate and TKD that "telegraph" a kick: Actually, if you "telegraph" a kick, the advantage is, that you actually can kick over a counter kick as practiced in Wing Tsun or Krav Manga (source: personal experience)
  - dethstar 10y ago
    No martial art is useful against multiple opponents, despite what they may claim. Yeah, someone's friend is going to kick you. But why wouldn't they kick you if you're standing and not facing them? I wouldn't say that's a disadvantage of BJJ but rather one of facing multiple opponents. Like facing someone who has a gun. You're at disadvantage no matter how much knowledge you have.
    - tiatia 10y ago
      My knowledge is not enough. But I knew people (now very very old) that were able to pull this off. They actually trained under Masutatsu Oyama with can be seen in some ways as precursor of MMA. I have also seen Boxers pulling this off to be fair. But any ground martial arts like is not suited to this.

naravara 10y ago

In a real street fight situation you also don't know if the guy is going to shank you, so most arguments about "which style is best" kind of go out the window at that point.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> In a real street fight situation you also don't know if the guy is going to shank you, so most arguments about "which style is best" kind of go out the window at that point. Well, appeal to non-lethal sport competitions to settle those arguments go out the window, but martial styles intended for real use (including lots where the unarmed subset has been popular in sport) tend to teach both techniques for dealing with armed opponents and techniques for using weapons (including, often, things that stand in for improvised weapons) -- because that's a pretty big factor in serious fights. Purely unarmed intended-for-use-in-anger martial arts are a rarity.
tiatia 10y ago
Jiu Jitsu is in so far overrated that on the street it has a tremendous disadvantage to take somebody down: His friend will kick you to the head when lying down (source: personal experience in the ground position) On of the advantages of old style MA like Karate and TKD that "telegraph" a kick: Actually, if you "telegraph" a kick, the advantage is, that you actually can kick over a counter kick as practiced in Wing Tsun or Krav Manga (source: personal experience)
- dethstar 10y ago
  No martial art is useful against multiple opponents, despite what they may claim. Yeah, someone's friend is going to kick you. But why wouldn't they kick you if you're standing and not facing them? I wouldn't say that's a disadvantage of BJJ but rather one of facing multiple opponents. Like facing someone who has a gun. You're at disadvantage no matter how much knowledge you have.
  - tiatia 10y ago
    My knowledge is not enough. But I knew people (now very very old) that were able to pull this off. They actually trained under Masutatsu Oyama with can be seen in some ways as precursor of MMA. I have also seen Boxers pulling this off to be fair. But any ground martial arts like is not suited to this.