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I'm not qualified to answer, but as a patient looking back; I feel duped by well meaning people. I don't know about neuroscience, but it seems when Psychologis

I'm not qualified to answer, but as a patient looking back; I feel duped by well meaning people. I don't know about neuroscience, but it seems when Psychologists/Psychiarty fails they fall back too frequently on, "Well, it's an art too?". I don't think I've met an older Psychiatrist who isn't secretly completely dissalusioned with their career. They won't admit it. I can just see it on their faces. It's ironic they know so much about denial, but they appear to really repress? I really hope these professions attract the best students/minds in the future, and brings in enough research money so that won't be an excuse. If you are in mental agony, you need to go through the dance--you might be the person they help. I'm not trying to be funny; you just need to go, and see if they can help. If all you get out of it is bills, bad side effects, and no results--leave. There's a part of me that wished I never seeked out their help, but will never know if I made the right decision. (My heart, and complete sympathy goes out to anyone hit with mental illness. I can offer this, with enough time you will feal better. Don't ruin your health by self-medicating. And I know, drugs like alcohol seem beneficial, but just don't overdo it. And again, give your brain/body time to heal. I'm an older guy who did get better. My life went down the tubes, but a lot of it was my fault--I guess? When I was in my twenties and blindsided by a malady, I held onto hope by a thin string. Every day became, just getting through it. My symptomology impoved with age. I will give good Psychologists/Psychiatrists this, they are the only professionals who seemingly truly understand what you are going through. To the rest of the world, the way you feel is a complete mystery, even family members, loved ones just don't quite get it. In the end, when you pull out of it, you might view the world a bit differently. There will be less black/white issues. I guarantee you will be a more understanding/sympathetic person. I sometimes think I became too liberal. To the point of being taken advantage of, but just don't know. I'm not the guy I used to be--for better, or worse.)

brazzledazzle 10y ago
I think it might depend on the psychiatrist. Some of them treat it very much like a specialization for any medical doctor. You describe your symptoms, they give you the best treatment options available and you iterate from there. If therapy is the answer or part of it you go see a therapist. If new science comes out you adapt. I suspect someone practicing psychology is more likely to become disillusioned.
tunap 10y ago
Congrats on making it through. I was extremely ill @ 29 years old and came to terms with my seemingly imminent mortality. It changed me completely from an Alpha anal-retentive to 'just another guy' enjoying the moment... more or less, there is no Utopia I have found. No one who hasn't been on their deathbed for an extended period could understand the experience, the slowness of time under the influence of ever-present discomfort and the desperation of impending finality. It is indeed maddening, then you get past it. If you're lucky enough to get a 2nd chance, your values can not not change. I've shared a campfire or two at the lake with fellow "happy people". I don't know if we're enlightened, calloussed or brain damaged, but I am much more contented in life without the high "highs" and low 'lows" of the 110% lifestyle. To each their own.
- Retra 10y ago
  What strikes me about your comment is how frequently you employ extremely polarized descriptions of your experiences.
  - tunap 10y ago
    It is a very polarizing experience! The dichotomy between wanting relief at almost any cost and not wanting to die is a major conflict. Stretch that over a period of months and it's safe to assume values/attitudes will change. The after-effect of redfining "success" in a way that conflicts with popular culture and the consumer lifestyle invites significant divergence from established norms(in western society). edit: reword 3rd sentence, removed excess
vibrato 10y ago
"It's ironic they know so much about denial, but they appear to really repress?" "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

brazzledazzle 10y ago

I think it might depend on the psychiatrist. Some of them treat it very much like a specialization for any medical doctor. You describe your symptoms, they give you the best treatment options available and you iterate from there. If therapy is the answer or part of it you go see a therapist. If new science comes out you adapt. I suspect someone practicing psychology is more likely to become disillusioned.

tunap 10y ago

Congrats on making it through. I was extremely ill @ 29 years old and came to terms with my seemingly imminent mortality. It changed me completely from an Alpha anal-retentive to 'just another guy' enjoying the moment... more or less, there is no Utopia I have found. No one who hasn't been on their deathbed for an extended period could understand the experience, the slowness of time under the influence of ever-present discomfort and the desperation of impending finality. It is indeed maddening, then you get past it. If you're lucky enough to get a 2nd chance, your values can not not change. I've shared a campfire or two at the lake with fellow "happy people". I don't know if we're enlightened, calloussed or brain damaged, but I am much more contented in life without the high "highs" and low 'lows" of the 110% lifestyle. To each their own.

Retra 10y ago
What strikes me about your comment is how frequently you employ extremely polarized descriptions of your experiences.
- tunap 10y ago
  It is a very polarizing experience! The dichotomy between wanting relief at almost any cost and not wanting to die is a major conflict. Stretch that over a period of months and it's safe to assume values/attitudes will change. The after-effect of redfining "success" in a way that conflicts with popular culture and the consumer lifestyle invites significant divergence from established norms(in western society). edit: reword 3rd sentence, removed excess

vibrato 10y ago

"It's ironic they know so much about denial, but they appear to really repress?" "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."