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'Serverless' heh... oh man marketing is great. Just like if you have it in the cloud it's 'hardwareless' right?

by Sleaker 10y ago

bowmessage 10y ago
Have you checked out my codeless github package?
adzicg 10y ago
I don't mind this name. We're OK with 'wireless' access to Internet, although it's pretty clear that the packets will hit a wire at some point. Wireless means I'm not pulling a cord along with my phone. 'serverless' similarly means my code is not listening on a socket, although the request does come from some socket, of course
- niftich 10y ago
  Your 'wireless' analogy is the most convincing explanation I've heard for the term yet. When I was struggling with accepting 'serverless' as a legitimate name for Function-calls-as-a-Service, I reminded myself that there's no server to SFTP or SSH into to muck about on its filesystem.
  - kowdermeister 10y ago
    Wireless is a wrong analogy. Wireless refers to the lack of cables _between_ my device and the router. "Serverless" things however are part of the same infrastructure that serve other web services. They are sitting on servers. Computers which has a CPU to execute the functions. We call them servers, therefore serverless is meaningless term. > there's no server to SFTP or SSH into There is, but you are not allowed in.
- spriggan3 10y ago
  "Serverless" is a stupid expression. There is still a server, otherwise how do you call your functions from outside ? The most accurate description of "functions as service" is a simple pub sub architecture, some service listens to events, starts a container and execute some script/binary/whatever. In order to send events to the former service, you need a server anyway. Just because it's a different service doesn't make the stack "serverless". Whether it is on Amazon or Azure, you're still paying for the API gateway service. Here is your server. We are at a point where some dubious marketing hurts development, because that marketing is completely inaccurate and misleading. Every single developer which engages into that misleading marketing should be called out publicly for his bullshit.
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'Serverless' heh... oh man marketing is great. Just like if you have it in the cloud it's 'hardwareless' right?

by Sleaker 10y ago

'Serverless' heh... oh man marketing is great. Just like if you have it in the cloud it's 'hardwareless' right?

bowmessage 10y ago

Have you checked out my codeless github package?

adzicg 10y ago

I don't mind this name. We're OK with 'wireless' access to Internet, although it's pretty clear that the packets will hit a wire at some point. Wireless means I'm not pulling a cord along with my phone. 'serverless' similarly means my code is not listening on a socket, although the request does come from some socket, of course

niftich 10y ago
Your 'wireless' analogy is the most convincing explanation I've heard for the term yet. When I was struggling with accepting 'serverless' as a legitimate name for Function-calls-as-a-Service, I reminded myself that there's no server to SFTP or SSH into to muck about on its filesystem.
- kowdermeister 10y ago
  Wireless is a wrong analogy. Wireless refers to the lack of cables _between_ my device and the router. "Serverless" things however are part of the same infrastructure that serve other web services. They are sitting on servers. Computers which has a CPU to execute the functions. We call them servers, therefore serverless is meaningless term. > there's no server to SFTP or SSH into There is, but you are not allowed in.
spriggan3 10y ago
"Serverless" is a stupid expression. There is still a server, otherwise how do you call your functions from outside ? The most accurate description of "functions as service" is a simple pub sub architecture, some service listens to events, starts a container and execute some script/binary/whatever. In order to send events to the former service, you need a server anyway. Just because it's a different service doesn't make the stack "serverless". Whether it is on Amazon or Azure, you're still paying for the API gateway service. Here is your server. We are at a point where some dubious marketing hurts development, because that marketing is completely inaccurate and misleading. Every single developer which engages into that misleading marketing should be called out publicly for his bullshit.

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