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Its a matter of fair play. I can setup bots to create level 40 characters with high CP pokemon with just a few eggs, walking half as much as other users. Then

by calsy 10y ago

Its a matter of fair play. I can setup bots to create level 40 characters with high CP pokemon with just a few eggs, walking half as much as other users. Then I'll just take over gyms with my OP pokemon and say 'hey, bending the rules, all good'. In most people's eye that's just dirty play. Same with maps, they are third-party tools used to shortcut success. Yes, the tracking sucks in game (im sure it will improve soon), but that doesn't justify having tools that say 'rare pokemon over here' without performing the actual hunting aspect of the game. That is no different to bots. What's the fun in everyone having rare pokemon without earning them. I'm not dissing maps, Niantic might even make their own official version in the future. But when people cry foul when their preferred method of 'bending the rules' is removed, I don't have much pity for them.

Retra 10y ago
But someone else could say the same to you: "But when people cry foul when their preferred method of 'following the rules' is removed, I don't have much pity for them." ...via 10M players leaving the game and putting the entire ecosystem at risk. The thing is, you're looking at this activity like 'success' is measurable within the game's rules rather than how satisfied people feel about playing the game in real life. This is a big difference between adults and children, by the way. All that prefrontal cortex development tends to push people into taking the value of their time into consideration even when they are playing games. They are not wrong to do so.
- calsy 10y ago
  I don't know where you got the idea that 10M players left because maps were removed. Do you have proof of this? The most reasonable explanation for the drop in users is simply a tapering off after one of the most hyped game releases of all time. Correct me if im wrong, but i'm pretty sure there are still some 30M+ users active in the game.
SerLava 10y ago
The difference here is that most games aren't absolutely awful without the cheats. There's also: -no way to get banned for using the cheat. -a very very low barrier to entry. -the cheat is directly replacing a bugged out, missing game mechanic. -the PvP advantage is minimal, only affecting a small portion of the game. Basically none of the classic problems with cheating are present here.

by calsy 10y ago

Retra 10y ago

But someone else could say the same to you: "But when people cry foul when their preferred method of 'following the rules' is removed, I don't have much pity for them." ...via 10M players leaving the game and putting the entire ecosystem at risk. The thing is, you're looking at this activity like 'success' is measurable within the game's rules rather than how satisfied people feel about playing the game in real life. This is a big difference between adults and children, by the way. All that prefrontal cortex development tends to push people into taking the value of their time into consideration even when they are playing games. They are not wrong to do so.

calsy 10y ago
I don't know where you got the idea that 10M players left because maps were removed. Do you have proof of this? The most reasonable explanation for the drop in users is simply a tapering off after one of the most hyped game releases of all time. Correct me if im wrong, but i'm pretty sure there are still some 30M+ users active in the game.

SerLava 10y ago

The difference here is that most games aren't absolutely awful without the cheats. There's also: -no way to get banned for using the cheat. -a very very low barrier to entry. -the cheat is directly replacing a bugged out, missing game mechanic. -the PvP advantage is minimal, only affecting a small portion of the game. Basically none of the classic problems with cheating are present here.