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sama sent out a reassuring email to the current batch because somebody got their feelings hurt by the mean old internet. We will now argue incessantly in the c

sama sent out a reassuring email to the current batch because somebody got their feelings hurt by the mean old internet. We will now argue incessantly in the comments section here about it. EDIT: Folks, if you would like to explain why either of those sentences were correct or unsubstantiated by current events, by all means do so. Cowardly downvoting doesn't educate anybody else.

runesoerensen 10y ago
> EDIT: Folks, if you would like to explain why either of those sentences were correct or unsubstantiated by current events, by all means do so. Cowardly downvoting doesn't educate anybody else. Why did you feel the need to edit your comment and call people cowards for not valuing your input? Did you get your feelings hurt by some mean old downvotes? :) That would ironically be the same feeling that people may have downvoted you for sarcastically dismissing. Also: Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 10y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12347919 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12347919 and marked it off-topic.
kbenson 10y ago
I imagine it's a matter of people finding that it didn't really contribute meaningfully to the conversation. While not part of the guidelines, the welcome page[1]. The most important principle on HN, though, is to make thoughtful comments. Thoughtful in both senses: civil and substantial. The test for substance is a lot like it is for links. Does your comment teach us anything? There are two ways to do that: by pointing out some consideration that hadn't previously been mentioned, and by giving more information about the topic, perhaps from personal experience. Whereas comments like "LOL!" or worse still, "That's retarded!" teach us nothing. We apply it very unevenly, and are harsher on the critical or humorous when it isn't insightful in some way. You gave a quick summary, but possibly not for the purpose of educating, but to be critical. That sets some people's downvote reflex off, I imagine. Note: I didn't downvote you, and I'm sure I'm not opening your eyes to anything new, as you've been here longer than me. That said, you asked... :) 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
- angersock 10y ago
  The darkly humorous thing about this is that the original submission would've been flagged away in other communities, precisely because it lacks substance. I don't know if this is because of people wanting to upvote the general propaganda of the startup ecosystem here, or because of a general attempt at reversing the trend of HN being perceived as overly critical--both are reasonable in their own way. Your observation about the uneven application of the guidelines here by HN members is of course spot on.

runesoerensen 10y ago

> EDIT: Folks, if you would like to explain why either of those sentences were correct or unsubstantiated by current events, by all means do so. Cowardly downvoting doesn't educate anybody else. Why did you feel the need to edit your comment and call people cowards for not valuing your input? Did you get your feelings hurt by some mean old downvotes? :) That would ironically be the same feeling that people may have downvoted you for sarcastically dismissing. Also: Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12347919 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12347919 and marked it off-topic.

kbenson 10y ago

I imagine it's a matter of people finding that it didn't really contribute meaningfully to the conversation. While not part of the guidelines, the welcome page[1]. The most important principle on HN, though, is to make thoughtful comments. Thoughtful in both senses: civil and substantial. The test for substance is a lot like it is for links. Does your comment teach us anything? There are two ways to do that: by pointing out some consideration that hadn't previously been mentioned, and by giving more information about the topic, perhaps from personal experience. Whereas comments like "LOL!" or worse still, "That's retarded!" teach us nothing. We apply it very unevenly, and are harsher on the critical or humorous when it isn't insightful in some way. You gave a quick summary, but possibly not for the purpose of educating, but to be critical. That sets some people's downvote reflex off, I imagine. Note: I didn't downvote you, and I'm sure I'm not opening your eyes to anything new, as you've been here longer than me. That said, you asked... :) 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

angersock 10y ago
The darkly humorous thing about this is that the original submission would've been flagged away in other communities, precisely because it lacks substance. I don't know if this is because of people wanting to upvote the general propaganda of the startup ecosystem here, or because of a general attempt at reversing the trend of HN being perceived as overly critical--both are reasonable in their own way. Your observation about the uneven application of the guidelines here by HN members is of course spot on.