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This kind of advice seems coddling and in opposition to the great advice Jessica Livingston gives in: http://blogs.wsj.com/accelerators/2014/06/03/jessica-livin

by b333t 10y ago

This kind of advice seems coddling and in opposition to the great advice Jessica Livingston gives in: http://blogs.wsj.com/accelerators/2014/06/03/jessica-livingston-why-startups-need-to-focus-on-sales-not-marketing/ http://blogs.wsj.com/accelerators/2014/06/03/jessica-livings... Were any of the founders of the mentioned startups so mentally weak that they gave a shit what anyone else said? They may have all had haters but they definitely also had lovers.

runesoerensen 10y ago
Someone who is affected by other people hating them and what they do can more accurately be classified as "human" than "mentally weak". In the article you refer to Jessica Livingston is talking about feedback from users. Those are very rarely the same people as the haters commenting on articles here and elsewhere.
- b333t 10y ago
  You've spent thousands of hours working on something but a random comment from someone who spent 30 seconds thinking about your thing upsets you? That's a weakness to be overcome not a trait to be embraced. HN users were early adopters of most of the mentioned successful startups but I would agree it's a very biased sample of users.
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  - runesoerensen 10y ago
    > That's a weakness to be overcome not a trait to be embraced. Embracing the fact that feeling this way is normal means you can and should brace yourself to overcome this "weakness". It's interesting that you seem to agree with the essence of this post: Don't let random haters drag you down. Yet your comments come off as oddly negative, seemingly because you don't understand the "pain point" (you obviously would never get hurt by random commenters, but some in the target audience probably would). Analogously, people hating on startups often don't (want to) understand the pain points addressed by the startups they're hating on either.
    - b333t 10y ago
      This "pain point" is a symptom of living a sheltered and coddled life. Wealthy parents and teachers don't tell their children the truth, leaving them to be blindsided when the real world inevitably shines through. These people are trying something real for the first time in their lives and they should be taught to overcome the struggle not run from it or blame "haters" for being mean.
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by b333t 10y ago

runesoerensen 10y ago

Someone who is affected by other people hating them and what they do can more accurately be classified as "human" than "mentally weak". In the article you refer to Jessica Livingston is talking about feedback from users. Those are very rarely the same people as the haters commenting on articles here and elsewhere.

b333t 10y ago
You've spent thousands of hours working on something but a random comment from someone who spent 30 seconds thinking about your thing upsets you? That's a weakness to be overcome not a trait to be embraced. HN users were early adopters of most of the mentioned successful startups but I would agree it's a very biased sample of users.
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- runesoerensen 10y ago
  > That's a weakness to be overcome not a trait to be embraced. Embracing the fact that feeling this way is normal means you can and should brace yourself to overcome this "weakness". It's interesting that you seem to agree with the essence of this post: Don't let random haters drag you down. Yet your comments come off as oddly negative, seemingly because you don't understand the "pain point" (you obviously would never get hurt by random commenters, but some in the target audience probably would). Analogously, people hating on startups often don't (want to) understand the pain points addressed by the startups they're hating on either.
  - b333t 10y ago
    This "pain point" is a symptom of living a sheltered and coddled life. Wealthy parents and teachers don't tell their children the truth, leaving them to be blindsided when the real world inevitably shines through. These people are trying something real for the first time in their lives and they should be taught to overcome the struggle not run from it or blame "haters" for being mean.
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