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Though this is only tangentially related - door locks with digital codes really need to be the standard. I live in NYC and have never seen this here. Meanwhile,

Though this is only tangentially related - door locks with digital codes really need to be the standard. I live in NYC and have never seen this here. Meanwhile, in South Korea digital code locks seem to be the standard. Copying a key takes 2 seconds and costs less than a dollar. Giving your keys to someone is a huge security risk.

Waterluvian 10y ago
I mostly agree with you. But let's be fair about the process for getting a key copied: 1. Wander around the store finding someone who looks like they know how to copy a key 2. Follow them awkwardly while they finish helping someone else 3. Watch them wander through all the key templates to find the right one. 4. 20 seconds into the first attempt he notices a deformity and starts over. 5. 11 seconds into the second attempt, the key catches and goes soaring majestically across the store. 6. 53 seconds into the third attempt you finally have your key. 7. Discover you forgot your wallet. Still a bigger security risk than having digital lock doors.
- wavefunction 10y ago
  My local grocer has a self-service machine that will copy a key in a minute or two.
- JDiculous 10y ago
  I actually got my keys copied last night and the whole process took 30-60 seconds.
- atwebb 10y ago
  All the big and small box hardware stores around here have self service ones, I thin kit's $6 for 4 keys
ghaff 10y ago
Many of us don't routinely give out keys to people we don't have some sort of ongoing relationship with (whether personal or professional) so "really need to be the standard" seems rather strong. That said, if I were renting out a property or otherwise had a lot of different people who needed access, I would definitely install door locks with digital codes. (I actually have a keypad for my garage door but it would be a nuisance to reset.)
- hobarrera 10y ago
  Maybe you don't give them copies of your keys, but, don't your friends even run down to grab a food delivery or something when they're at your place? Or run down to the store in front with your key, etc?
  - ghaff 10y ago
    No. I live in a house in a semi-rural area that doesn't even have any food delivery options :-)
pavanred 10y ago
I recently stayed at an AirBnB. The host used a keybox that was next to the main entrance of the property which had the key to the house and shared a code with me, so that when I get to the property I can use the code to get the key. The problem I saw with this is that the code was extremely weak. And I suspect, based on the the nature of the code, that the host perhaps doesn't change the code for each guest. I hope they do. Just using a digital lock wont help if people use weak passcodes etc. and use bad security practices.

Waterluvian 10y ago

I mostly agree with you. But let's be fair about the process for getting a key copied: 1. Wander around the store finding someone who looks like they know how to copy a key 2. Follow them awkwardly while they finish helping someone else 3. Watch them wander through all the key templates to find the right one. 4. 20 seconds into the first attempt he notices a deformity and starts over. 5. 11 seconds into the second attempt, the key catches and goes soaring majestically across the store. 6. 53 seconds into the third attempt you finally have your key. 7. Discover you forgot your wallet. Still a bigger security risk than having digital lock doors.

wavefunction 10y ago
My local grocer has a self-service machine that will copy a key in a minute or two.
JDiculous 10y ago
I actually got my keys copied last night and the whole process took 30-60 seconds.
atwebb 10y ago
All the big and small box hardware stores around here have self service ones, I thin kit's $6 for 4 keys

ghaff 10y ago

Many of us don't routinely give out keys to people we don't have some sort of ongoing relationship with (whether personal or professional) so "really need to be the standard" seems rather strong. That said, if I were renting out a property or otherwise had a lot of different people who needed access, I would definitely install door locks with digital codes. (I actually have a keypad for my garage door but it would be a nuisance to reset.)

hobarrera 10y ago
Maybe you don't give them copies of your keys, but, don't your friends even run down to grab a food delivery or something when they're at your place? Or run down to the store in front with your key, etc?
- ghaff 10y ago
  No. I live in a house in a semi-rural area that doesn't even have any food delivery options :-)

pavanred 10y ago

I recently stayed at an AirBnB. The host used a keybox that was next to the main entrance of the property which had the key to the house and shared a code with me, so that when I get to the property I can use the code to get the key. The problem I saw with this is that the code was extremely weak. And I suspect, based on the the nature of the code, that the host perhaps doesn't change the code for each guest. I hope they do. Just using a digital lock wont help if people use weak passcodes etc. and use bad security practices.