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Why isn't it? If I needed to build a static site for someone wouldn't some tools and languages be better than others? Those same tools and languages may not be

Why isn't it? If I needed to build a static site for someone wouldn't some tools and languages be better than others? Those same tools and languages may not be useful for building a very high traffic site that perhaps has an ecommerce component.

tome 10y ago
Tools and languages might (hypothetically) be better for a specific narrow purpose whilst being objectively inferior technology. A hammer is better for some jobs than a CNC machine.
- exclusiv 10y ago
  Your arrogance really shows with "hypothetically" in that context. That's part of what the article is discussing as a real issue.
  - tome 10y ago
    I'm terribly sorry if I upset anyone by sounding arrogant. That wasn't my intention and is probably an unfortunate consequence of making snippy remarks on the internet, particularly ones that seem self-evident to me, even if others have differing perspectives. That said, I do not see how anyone could not consider Python superior technology to PHP, C superior technology to BCPL and Pascal superior technology to punch cards.
    - exclusiv 10y ago
      All good - I think the initial short comment and the subtle "hypothetically" really just obscured what you were trying to say in response to the parent's "entirely subjective" comment - that some languages are objectively technologically superior to some others. I do agree with that. I can think of various languages over ColdFusion as an example. Python versus PHP is not so clear cut if you look at the modern versions. Anyway, I do think we should be more welcoming to those that use other languages though as the article recommends. It's possible to make a LOT of money these days doing simple CRUD apps. It's a great time to be a developer. We're all very blessed. So shouting about how one language is superior to another is meaningless to a lot of people. Even if you're right, people will feel like you're telling them they wasted their time with the others language(s). And that approach won't convert them if that's your goal. Many of us also partake in business decisions so even if you think Python is technologically superior to PHP as an example, it won't make sense for many projects. Depending on your client base and/or your in-house skill-set - it may rarely make sense. After you factor in things like total cost of ownership, what a client's current tech team is capable in, hosting costs, etc, technologically superior can be meaningless in many situations. Enterprise systems are usually technologically superior and clients often only need or use 25% or less of the capabilities. Most of us could care less about enterprise systems.
- dopamean 10y ago
  How is a CNC machine superior to a hammer? A CNC machine isn't going to help me hang a framed photo in my bathroom.
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tome 10y ago

Tools and languages might (hypothetically) be better for a specific narrow purpose whilst being objectively inferior technology. A hammer is better for some jobs than a CNC machine.

exclusiv 10y ago
Your arrogance really shows with "hypothetically" in that context. That's part of what the article is discussing as a real issue.
- tome 10y ago
  I'm terribly sorry if I upset anyone by sounding arrogant. That wasn't my intention and is probably an unfortunate consequence of making snippy remarks on the internet, particularly ones that seem self-evident to me, even if others have differing perspectives. That said, I do not see how anyone could not consider Python superior technology to PHP, C superior technology to BCPL and Pascal superior technology to punch cards.
  - exclusiv 10y ago
    All good - I think the initial short comment and the subtle "hypothetically" really just obscured what you were trying to say in response to the parent's "entirely subjective" comment - that some languages are objectively technologically superior to some others. I do agree with that. I can think of various languages over ColdFusion as an example. Python versus PHP is not so clear cut if you look at the modern versions. Anyway, I do think we should be more welcoming to those that use other languages though as the article recommends. It's possible to make a LOT of money these days doing simple CRUD apps. It's a great time to be a developer. We're all very blessed. So shouting about how one language is superior to another is meaningless to a lot of people. Even if you're right, people will feel like you're telling them they wasted their time with the others language(s). And that approach won't convert them if that's your goal. Many of us also partake in business decisions so even if you think Python is technologically superior to PHP as an example, it won't make sense for many projects. Depending on your client base and/or your in-house skill-set - it may rarely make sense. After you factor in things like total cost of ownership, what a client's current tech team is capable in, hosting costs, etc, technologically superior can be meaningless in many situations. Enterprise systems are usually technologically superior and clients often only need or use 25% or less of the capabilities. Most of us could care less about enterprise systems.
dopamean 10y ago
How is a CNC machine superior to a hammer? A CNC machine isn't going to help me hang a framed photo in my bathroom.
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