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Not that I agree with this persons opinions at large, I do recognize that he got some points. Perhaps he may be a bit sexist but so are most people and feminist

Not that I agree with this persons opinions at large, I do recognize that he got some points. Perhaps he may be a bit sexist but so are most people and feminists at large are extremely sexist at large in my opinion. A quote from the second link: "The whole issue is being overcompensated now. On some technical forum I’ve seen somebody ask for advice on whatever. Another user replied with a link to women.debian.org. What the fuck? Do we have “men.debian.org”? If you’re no different wrt. technical matters, then you need no different website. If you need different treatment, then don’t be surprised if you’re treated differently." Couldn't agree more on that point and matter, I do think we should treat each other with respect and integrity but why treat people differently because of their gender? Can't we just treat everyone the same? Honestly, that is not what society is doing and especially not so in the IT sector. I think this is one of the points the OP is making with his post. Just because he has these views does not necessary render his views on nodejs or whatever else nil.

mritterhoff 10y ago
> but why treat people differently because of their gender? Can't we just treat everyone the same? This is one of those well-intentioned questions that makes a lot of hidden assumptions. Since straight white men founded this country, wrote the laws, and hold a disproportionate number of positions as presidents, congressmen, CEOs, etc, this means that the directive to "treat everyone the same" in practice becomes "treat everyone like a straight white man" Men and women and non-binary folks have different needs and are oppressed to varying degrees. Trying to treat them all the same ignore these important differences. This post discusses how conventional city planning of treating everyone the same is less effective than bringing those differences to the forefront: http://www.citylab.com/commute/2013/09/how-design-city-women/6739/ http://www.citylab.com/commute/2013/09/how-design-city-women...
- staticelf 10y ago
  > This is one of those well-intentioned questions that makes a lot of hidden assumptions. Since straight white men founded this country, wrote the laws, and hold a disproportionate number of positions as presidents, congressmen, CEOs, etc, this means that the directive to "treat everyone the same" in practice becomes "treat everyone like a straight white man" I am sorry, but the last part just doesn't make any sense. First of, I am probably not from the same country as you are and treating everyone according to the golden rule doesn't mean treating everyone like a straight white man. You are accusing me of making assumptions when the irony is that you are making the assumptions. I don't really believe that cities generally are being designed for any specific gender and I do not believe any gender is being oppressed in my country. But at last, I don't see how this is relevant at all for this discussion, I was simply talking about treating everyone the same and for sure if you can make data supported general statements about specific needs for men or women go ahead and design a better city.

mritterhoff 10y ago

> but why treat people differently because of their gender? Can't we just treat everyone the same? This is one of those well-intentioned questions that makes a lot of hidden assumptions. Since straight white men founded this country, wrote the laws, and hold a disproportionate number of positions as presidents, congressmen, CEOs, etc, this means that the directive to "treat everyone the same" in practice becomes "treat everyone like a straight white man" Men and women and non-binary folks have different needs and are oppressed to varying degrees. Trying to treat them all the same ignore these important differences. This post discusses how conventional city planning of treating everyone the same is less effective than bringing those differences to the forefront: http://www.citylab.com/commute/2013/09/how-design-city-women/6739/ http://www.citylab.com/commute/2013/09/how-design-city-women...

staticelf 10y ago
> This is one of those well-intentioned questions that makes a lot of hidden assumptions. Since straight white men founded this country, wrote the laws, and hold a disproportionate number of positions as presidents, congressmen, CEOs, etc, this means that the directive to "treat everyone the same" in practice becomes "treat everyone like a straight white man" I am sorry, but the last part just doesn't make any sense. First of, I am probably not from the same country as you are and treating everyone according to the golden rule doesn't mean treating everyone like a straight white man. You are accusing me of making assumptions when the irony is that you are making the assumptions. I don't really believe that cities generally are being designed for any specific gender and I do not believe any gender is being oppressed in my country. But at last, I don't see how this is relevant at all for this discussion, I was simply talking about treating everyone the same and for sure if you can make data supported general statements about specific needs for men or women go ahead and design a better city.