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Several independent review article about Hololens mention the limited view (relatively small view angle), underwhelming and off putting. (You can immediately sp

by frik 10y ago

Several independent review article about Hololens mention the limited view (relatively small view angle), underwhelming and off putting. (You can immediately spot a sponsored article if it doesn't even mention that issue at all.) iPhone 6 and high end Android smartphones already have augment reality apps with SLAM technology that is far more impressive than what MS PR is suggestion Hololens might one day be able to offer - the E3 presentation in 2015 and 2016 were faked as we know in the meantime.

woah 10y ago
Have you even tried one? The small field of view is disappointing, but only because what is in it is so impressive. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the smartphones, but I'm pretty sure they can't show objects in a room with natural looking distances and depth of field like the Hololens can.
- josephpmay 10y ago
  The Hololens dose not have an accommodative display (natural looking depth of field). I believe their display is collimated, so that everything is always in focus.
  - monk_e_boy 10y ago
    They have gaze tracking so this should be fixable.
    - josephpmay 10y ago
      gaze tracking is not eye tracking
blahi 10y ago
Yeah. That [1] is like pokemon go. Or faked. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-JvTZjbwNs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-JvTZjbwNs posted elsewhere in the comments.
puranjay 10y ago
This is why I've decided to wait 3+ years to jump aboard the AR-VR train. The tech is still too raw.
eDameXxX 10y ago
This kind of comment I call FUD. Please watch many of available videos on YT and you will see that HoloLens is really impressive device (despite fact that is just 1st version). ------ PS. Microsoft announced couple days ago that HoloLens is "ready for businness" [1] [1] https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/commercial-suite https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/commercia...
kayoone 10y ago
These kind of comments are really dismissive. Sure, MS PR did fire up the hype train a bit too much, but in the end they only want to show what it will be capable of in the future, as they are not selling the current version to consumers yet. Pretty sure it will eventually reach that level of the E3 presentation when hardware gets faster/smaller/cheaper, by now it's just a tech demo and they have a lot more to actually show than Magic Leap for example.
modeless 10y ago
> iPhone 6 and high end Android smartphones already have augment reality apps with SLAM technology that is far more impressive This is the most wrong comment I've seen on HN in a long time. The SLAM in Hololens is incredibly impressive and nothing on any smartphone is one hundredth as good, with the possible exception of the still unreleased Project Tango phone.
- roninb 10y ago
  Could you possibly explain for those of us out of the loop as to why? Otherwise I could simply say: "This is the most wrong comment I've seen on HN in a long time. The SLAM in smartphones are the same as the one in Hololens. Project Tango should prove even more impressive." And no one would be any wiser.
  - mcintyre1994 10y ago
    SLAM stands for "simultaneous location and mapping", it's about being in an unknown environment which you need to both map and localise yourself in. I'm familiar with it in the context of robotic navigation, but it seems Hololens deals with it too - mapping the environment to place holograms, localising within that environment because you need to be able to interact with them. Most smartphones simply don't have to do this, they don't have to map their environments without user input. They don't have to localise themselves within a map of the environment that they've built themselves. Project Tango does do AR and environment mapping on a smartphone, so it does deal with the SLAM problem too.
castell 10y ago
An article that mentions the field of view: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-HoloLens-im-Haertetest-3208736.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-HoloLens-im... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2FMicrosoft-HoloLens-im-Haertetest-3208736.html&edit-text=&act=url https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev... (scroll down a bit) Machine translated: Opposite VR solutions HoloLens however significantly limited field of view has: Particularly when you view the video on the large virtual canvas was how far away an ugly proscenium effect. In addition, the glasses showed in black and white content distinct RGB effects - similar to the rainbow effect, causing the color wheel of DLP projectors.

by frik 10y ago

woah 10y ago

Have you even tried one? The small field of view is disappointing, but only because what is in it is so impressive. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the smartphones, but I'm pretty sure they can't show objects in a room with natural looking distances and depth of field like the Hololens can.

josephpmay 10y ago
The Hololens dose not have an accommodative display (natural looking depth of field). I believe their display is collimated, so that everything is always in focus.
- monk_e_boy 10y ago
  They have gaze tracking so this should be fixable.
  - josephpmay 10y ago
    gaze tracking is not eye tracking

blahi 10y ago

Yeah. That [1] is like pokemon go. Or faked. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-JvTZjbwNs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-JvTZjbwNs posted elsewhere in the comments.

puranjay 10y ago

This is why I've decided to wait 3+ years to jump aboard the AR-VR train. The tech is still too raw.

eDameXxX 10y ago

This kind of comment I call FUD. Please watch many of available videos on YT and you will see that HoloLens is really impressive device (despite fact that is just 1st version). ------ PS. Microsoft announced couple days ago that HoloLens is "ready for businness" [1] [1] https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/commercial-suite https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/commercia...

kayoone 10y ago

These kind of comments are really dismissive. Sure, MS PR did fire up the hype train a bit too much, but in the end they only want to show what it will be capable of in the future, as they are not selling the current version to consumers yet. Pretty sure it will eventually reach that level of the E3 presentation when hardware gets faster/smaller/cheaper, by now it's just a tech demo and they have a lot more to actually show than Magic Leap for example.

modeless 10y ago

> iPhone 6 and high end Android smartphones already have augment reality apps with SLAM technology that is far more impressive This is the most wrong comment I've seen on HN in a long time. The SLAM in Hololens is incredibly impressive and nothing on any smartphone is one hundredth as good, with the possible exception of the still unreleased Project Tango phone.

roninb 10y ago
Could you possibly explain for those of us out of the loop as to why? Otherwise I could simply say: "This is the most wrong comment I've seen on HN in a long time. The SLAM in smartphones are the same as the one in Hololens. Project Tango should prove even more impressive." And no one would be any wiser.
- mcintyre1994 10y ago
  SLAM stands for "simultaneous location and mapping", it's about being in an unknown environment which you need to both map and localise yourself in. I'm familiar with it in the context of robotic navigation, but it seems Hololens deals with it too - mapping the environment to place holograms, localising within that environment because you need to be able to interact with them. Most smartphones simply don't have to do this, they don't have to map their environments without user input. They don't have to localise themselves within a map of the environment that they've built themselves. Project Tango does do AR and environment mapping on a smartphone, so it does deal with the SLAM problem too.

castell 10y ago

An article that mentions the field of view: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-HoloLens-im-Haertetest-3208736.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-HoloLens-im... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2FMicrosoft-HoloLens-im-Haertetest-3208736.html&edit-text=&act=url https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev... (scroll down a bit) Machine translated: Opposite VR solutions HoloLens however significantly limited field of view has: Particularly when you view the video on the large virtual canvas was how far away an ugly proscenium effect. In addition, the glasses showed in black and white content distinct RGB effects - similar to the rainbow effect, causing the color wheel of DLP projectors.