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> like fiber taps at Google's datacenters Likewise, [citation needed]. That would be pretty stunning, if true.

by runjake 10y ago

FooHentai 10y ago
This has been known about for ages and was part of the Snowden leaks: https://www.google.com/search?q=google+nsa+%22encryption+added+and+removed+here https://www.google.com/search?q=google+nsa+%22encryption+add...
- runjake 10y ago
  Everything I've read from the Snowden docs indicates traffic is intercepted over big pipes on backbones or at Internet Exchanges. The parent poster was suggesting (and I was questioning) this occurred at Google Data Centers, which would prove explicit cooperation by Google. A whole different ballgame. The closest I've seen are the PRISM slides which imply cooperation from Google and the other big companies, but this could be bad choice of wording.
  - FooHentai 10y ago
    No, this one was on the Google 'Front End Servers': http://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/nc20131113d1a.jpg http://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/nc201... Regarding PRISM cooperation, I'm not sure where your doubt is coming from there. http://imgur.com/a/wRKtL http://imgur.com/a/wRKtL The slide was explicit, and is now many years out of date so without doubt the number of providers has increased. The means by which these provider agreements are reached is well known (National Security Letters) as is the fact that organizations are fully barred from disclosing their existence.
MertsA 10y ago
It was fiber taps between Google Datacenters overseas. The implication being that if your location history, emails, photos, secret diary, or what have you is transferred overseas at any point then you automatically have no more rights to privacy than a suspected terrorist.
- runjake 10y ago
  See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12344257 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12344257

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> like fiber taps at Google's datacenters Likewise, [citation needed]. That would be pretty stunning, if true.

by runjake 10y ago

> like fiber taps at Google's datacenters Likewise, [citation needed]. That would be pretty stunning, if true.

FooHentai 10y ago
This has been known about for ages and was part of the Snowden leaks: https://www.google.com/search?q=google+nsa+%22encryption+added+and+removed+here https://www.google.com/search?q=google+nsa+%22encryption+add...
- runjake 10y ago
  Everything I've read from the Snowden docs indicates traffic is intercepted over big pipes on backbones or at Internet Exchanges. The parent poster was suggesting (and I was questioning) this occurred at Google Data Centers, which would prove explicit cooperation by Google. A whole different ballgame. The closest I've seen are the PRISM slides which imply cooperation from Google and the other big companies, but this could be bad choice of wording.
  - FooHentai 10y ago
    No, this one was on the Google 'Front End Servers': http://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/nc20131113d1a.jpg http://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/nc201... Regarding PRISM cooperation, I'm not sure where your doubt is coming from there. http://imgur.com/a/wRKtL http://imgur.com/a/wRKtL The slide was explicit, and is now many years out of date so without doubt the number of providers has increased. The means by which these provider agreements are reached is well known (National Security Letters) as is the fact that organizations are fully barred from disclosing their existence.
MertsA 10y ago
It was fiber taps between Google Datacenters overseas. The implication being that if your location history, emails, photos, secret diary, or what have you is transferred overseas at any point then you automatically have no more rights to privacy than a suspected terrorist.
- runjake 10y ago
  See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12344257 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12344257