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I live in Prescott. The weather is fantastic, all four seasons. Weatherunderground zip 86301 for the next week :-) I've been here 22 years. The outdoors act

by downut 10y ago

I live in Prescott. The weather is fantastic, all four seasons. Weatherunderground zip 86301 for the next week :-) I've been here 22 years. The outdoors activities are world class: hiking, mt and road cycling. I live in-town and Federal wilderness is literally 5 miles away. My wife and I are both post-graduate STEM evacuees from the BA (Mt. View, 2nd and Townsend in SF, Santa Clara). We miss a lot about the BA, but as mentioned in the article, once you have a kid, two 1 hr commutes, possibly in opposite directions, are a non-starter. The thing we miss most about the BA are the people associated things because... the retrograde politics and essentially fascist outlook of the politically powerful has become suffocating. It is quite common to be in a restaurant and have some ragged beat down old white fellow packing a large gun. I have a youngish couple who walk an infant in a stroller by my house in the evening and the otherwise normal looking man-boy carries a giant pistol. I had words with the typical sort in Trader Joes because he felt he needed to pack a gun while shopping for groceries. Prescott has essentially no crime, nor much in the way of minorities, for that matter. It's not about safety. This never happened 10 years ago, and earlier. Something happened around 2008, and things have been going downhill ever since.

dikaiosune 10y ago
I live in Flagstaff, and while going to Prescott for In-n-Out is nice, I have a hard time imagining living there vs. Flagstaff for the exact reasons you mention.
- jhayward 10y ago
  We looked very closely at moving from Austin to Flagstaff 3 years ago when my wife had a job offer there. Although we absolutely love the locale we concluded that there were very few job opportunities in the area, particularly in tech, and it wouldn't be a great move from an economic standpoint. What's your view of the Flag area economy?
  - dikaiosune 10y ago
    It's a lot like many places without significant industry and nice quality of life. Less expensive than more "hot spot" areas, but wages are out of whack with the cost of living for most people. You definitely pay a premium relative to general wages to live in a nice place like this. That said, there are many people who do quite well for themselves here, and they seem to love it. But it's not really a place where you can advance quickly by moving between companies. Most employees here seem to be lifers. In terms of tech, there's not much to report. I got my current job through a personal recommendation, but was preparing to move away right before that happened. There are a couple of smaller tech companies, but otherwise developers pretty much work for the university, the hospital, W.L. Gore, Deckers Outdoor, or they work remotely (last year I met a principal architect from Blackboard who apparently lives here and works remotely for them). There are no meetups that I know of, and almost all of the jobs are .NET/JVM enterprise-y integrations and IT stuff. I'm sure there are little pockets that I'm not aware of, but there's only like 70k people who live here anyway. So, uh, I guess my view of the economy is rather dim :). But that's not why one moves to this area -- it's the urban trail system, the backyard national forest, the easy access to the entire southwest, the low crime rates, the fresh air, the friendly people, the liberal mountain town vibe, the microbreweries, etc.
davidw 10y ago
Prescott looks pretty cool, but seems fairly expensive and without much of a local tech scene. Looks a bit like here in Bend in some ways, actually, although Bend is significantly bigger at this point and is developing something of a tech ecosystem, with a new university, some VC's, and some established companies.

by downut 10y ago

dikaiosune 10y ago

I live in Flagstaff, and while going to Prescott for In-n-Out is nice, I have a hard time imagining living there vs. Flagstaff for the exact reasons you mention.

jhayward 10y ago
We looked very closely at moving from Austin to Flagstaff 3 years ago when my wife had a job offer there. Although we absolutely love the locale we concluded that there were very few job opportunities in the area, particularly in tech, and it wouldn't be a great move from an economic standpoint. What's your view of the Flag area economy?
- dikaiosune 10y ago
  It's a lot like many places without significant industry and nice quality of life. Less expensive than more "hot spot" areas, but wages are out of whack with the cost of living for most people. You definitely pay a premium relative to general wages to live in a nice place like this. That said, there are many people who do quite well for themselves here, and they seem to love it. But it's not really a place where you can advance quickly by moving between companies. Most employees here seem to be lifers. In terms of tech, there's not much to report. I got my current job through a personal recommendation, but was preparing to move away right before that happened. There are a couple of smaller tech companies, but otherwise developers pretty much work for the university, the hospital, W.L. Gore, Deckers Outdoor, or they work remotely (last year I met a principal architect from Blackboard who apparently lives here and works remotely for them). There are no meetups that I know of, and almost all of the jobs are .NET/JVM enterprise-y integrations and IT stuff. I'm sure there are little pockets that I'm not aware of, but there's only like 70k people who live here anyway. So, uh, I guess my view of the economy is rather dim :). But that's not why one moves to this area -- it's the urban trail system, the backyard national forest, the easy access to the entire southwest, the low crime rates, the fresh air, the friendly people, the liberal mountain town vibe, the microbreweries, etc.

davidw 10y ago

Prescott looks pretty cool, but seems fairly expensive and without much of a local tech scene. Looks a bit like here in Bend in some ways, actually, although Bend is significantly bigger at this point and is developing something of a tech ecosystem, with a new university, some VC's, and some established companies.