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The problem with this is it's easy to start getting legitimate marketing emails that you signed up for filed as spam, because they look similar to the marketing

by eridius 10y ago

The problem with this is it's easy to start getting legitimate marketing emails that you signed up for filed as spam, because they look similar to the marketing emails that you've been reporting. For example, for a while SpamAssassin decided that every email from the PlayStation store (even receipt emails) was spam, primarily because they look similar to other emails I've marked.

fapjacks 10y ago
That's strange. Specifically I have marked all of Sony/Playstation's marketing crap "spam" in Gmail, and I marked only one of my PS Store email as "not spam" and never had a problem since.
- eridius 10y ago
  Gmail is most likely a combination of global and local filters, and most people probably consider the PS Store emails as not spam. I'm not using Gmail, I'm using FastMail, so I'm using a local SpamAssassin filter (once you mark enough emails it flips from the global to the local filter). SpamAssassin uses some global data (e.g. URI blacklists and whatnot), but AFAIK the bayesian classification for my incoming email is purely based on my local training.
chadgeidel 10y ago
Even worse - these filters appear to be global and I've spent a good amount of time trying to un-train some lazy person's "report this (entirely legitimate) email as spam". Yes, I am aware this is a fool's errand.
- sib 10y ago
  Agreed - I've recently had a bunch of Amazon transactional emails get spam-filtered by Google, and I've never marked them as such.
stebalien 10y ago
Or ones from my bank that include a lovely advertisement at the bottom... But you know what, I just let them stay in my spam folder because they are spam (and important emails usually don't have advertisements attached). Example that tripped up bogofilter: Show them the love.Whether it's candy,flowers, or something extra special, shop through the Earn More Mall® Site and watch your Bonus Rewards Currency add up. Got the winter time blues? Pack your bags and plan your escape - your rewards can lead you to a world of travel. Search from a wide variety of hotel, cruise or vacation packages. This limited-time offer is available July 1, 2016 through September 30, 2016. Gap, Old Navy and Banana Republic gift cards have no expiration or maintenance fees, and can be used at the following Gap Inc. brand stores and websites: Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic, and Athleta. Limit 5 gift cards redeemable per online transaction. Gift cards are redeemable for merchandise only, cannot be replaced if lost or stolen, and may not be redeemed with certain promotional offers. Restricted to use in the USA, Canada and Puerto Rico.

by eridius 10y ago

fapjacks 10y ago

That's strange. Specifically I have marked all of Sony/Playstation's marketing crap "spam" in Gmail, and I marked only one of my PS Store email as "not spam" and never had a problem since.

eridius 10y ago
Gmail is most likely a combination of global and local filters, and most people probably consider the PS Store emails as not spam. I'm not using Gmail, I'm using FastMail, so I'm using a local SpamAssassin filter (once you mark enough emails it flips from the global to the local filter). SpamAssassin uses some global data (e.g. URI blacklists and whatnot), but AFAIK the bayesian classification for my incoming email is purely based on my local training.

chadgeidel 10y ago

Even worse - these filters appear to be global and I've spent a good amount of time trying to un-train some lazy person's "report this (entirely legitimate) email as spam". Yes, I am aware this is a fool's errand.

sib 10y ago
Agreed - I've recently had a bunch of Amazon transactional emails get spam-filtered by Google, and I've never marked them as such.

stebalien 10y ago

Or ones from my bank that include a lovely advertisement at the bottom... But you know what, I just let them stay in my spam folder because they are spam (and important emails usually don't have advertisements attached). Example that tripped up bogofilter: Show them the love.Whether it's candy,flowers, or something extra special, shop through the Earn More Mall® Site and watch your Bonus Rewards Currency add up. Got the winter time blues? Pack your bags and plan your escape - your rewards can lead you to a world of travel. Search from a wide variety of hotel, cruise or vacation packages. This limited-time offer is available July 1, 2016 through September 30, 2016. Gap, Old Navy and Banana Republic gift cards have no expiration or maintenance fees, and can be used at the following Gap Inc. brand stores and websites: Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic, and Athleta. Limit 5 gift cards redeemable per online transaction. Gift cards are redeemable for merchandise only, cannot be replaced if lost or stolen, and may not be redeemed with certain promotional offers. Restricted to use in the USA, Canada and Puerto Rico.