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I agree about hoping MS being more user-hostile, but I disagree about using Windows again if they open-source it. The only thing I'd ever use it for is softwar

I agree about hoping MS being more user-hostile, but I disagree about using Windows again if they open-source it. The only thing I'd ever use it for is software that I just can't get to work on Linux or WINE. I really don't care if it's open-source; I simply do not like using it. It's terrible software with a terrible UI. It's not nice to use, and it's nothing short of awful to administer: it needs constant updates, and updating it takes forever and makes the computer completely unusable and then forces multiple reboots. What idiot designed this? On my Linux systems, I need to do an update every day it seems, and it takes all of about 5 seconds: I click on the updater icon, enter my password, and then minimize it to the background and it does the update by itself, with no reboots needed. Most updates are very fast anyway; usually they're just updating some little 100kB library and that takes no time at all to download and install. But I completely agree about MS going down the user-hostile path. It's actually pretty funny to watch, and to see so many people bitching and complaining about it. I just keep telling them to stop complaining and if they don't like it, don't use it, which hopefully pisses them off even more (it sure seems to). Maybe if these morons finally get fed up enough with being shat on by MS and then not getting any sympathy from the peanut gallery, and being told it's their own fault for picking MS as their vendor, they'll get a clue and switch. It seems to be working for some, and for the rest I have no sympathy. This whole terrible situation we have with MS being an abusive monopolist for so long is directly the result of the choices made by people like that, so I'm happy to see them get their come-uppance.

jasonkostempski 10y ago
I sympathize with people that are "stuck" with it. I still use it for work but I don't use any personal stuff on my work machine. I could quit my job but, frankly, I'm not that brave :) I am in a position to maybe help transition away from it, but that can be an up-cliff battle sometimes. Fact is, MS has a strong grip on a lot of sacks out there.
- Grishnakh 10y ago
  Don't misunderstand me: I use Windows at work too. But like you said, I don't do personal stuff on my work machine. My work machine belongs to my employer, and if it has any problems, that's their problem, not mine. I don't like using it much, but there's a reason it's called "work"; I get paid to put up with crap like using Windows. I'll happily recommend alternate solutions if asked, but it's not my company and not my call. Luckily much of my work involves Linux (thanks to a VM), but if Windows dies or doing updates takes up hours of my time, that's no problem, I get paid the same regardless, I just make sure to point out in my weekly reports that my time is being wasted by that stuff. All I care about is that I get paid the rate I was promised for doing the best I can with the tools I'm given. If I find a better job somewhere later that doesn't involve Windows, great, but for now this deal works OK for me. For my personal machines, however, it's a different story: I'm not going to waste my time and money on an inferior OS which has no appreciable benefit to me, and many gigantic downsides. If other people choose to, that's on them, but I'm tired of hearing them bitch and complain about that OS's vendor mistreating them. They made their bed, now they need to lie in it.

jasonkostempski 10y ago

I sympathize with people that are "stuck" with it. I still use it for work but I don't use any personal stuff on my work machine. I could quit my job but, frankly, I'm not that brave :) I am in a position to maybe help transition away from it, but that can be an up-cliff battle sometimes. Fact is, MS has a strong grip on a lot of sacks out there.

Grishnakh 10y ago
Don't misunderstand me: I use Windows at work too. But like you said, I don't do personal stuff on my work machine. My work machine belongs to my employer, and if it has any problems, that's their problem, not mine. I don't like using it much, but there's a reason it's called "work"; I get paid to put up with crap like using Windows. I'll happily recommend alternate solutions if asked, but it's not my company and not my call. Luckily much of my work involves Linux (thanks to a VM), but if Windows dies or doing updates takes up hours of my time, that's no problem, I get paid the same regardless, I just make sure to point out in my weekly reports that my time is being wasted by that stuff. All I care about is that I get paid the rate I was promised for doing the best I can with the tools I'm given. If I find a better job somewhere later that doesn't involve Windows, great, but for now this deal works OK for me. For my personal machines, however, it's a different story: I'm not going to waste my time and money on an inferior OS which has no appreciable benefit to me, and many gigantic downsides. If other people choose to, that's on them, but I'm tired of hearing them bitch and complain about that OS's vendor mistreating them. They made their bed, now they need to lie in it.