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‘I want my family back in a Tesla’ says father after severe crash in a Model X

15 points by phr4ts 10y ago

iRobbery 10y ago
Though from what i can see, the GMC looks to be still drivable? The tesla seems totalled.
- VeejayRampay 10y ago
  It might be a good thing that it looks that way. From what I understand it is because of a "crumple zone" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone). The more energy absorbed by the car itself, the less damage to the passengers apparently.
- tsomctl 10y ago
  The GMC doesn't look like it has crumple zones at all (do those have crumple zones in the frame, like the new F350s?) The front tires on it are pointing in different directions, I bet the IFS is damaged. It wouldn't be that hard to fix, though.
scjody 10y ago
Wow, that's a lot of anecdata and personal feelings. The truth is that pretty much any car on the market today will protect its occupants in a crash. More anecdata: my wife was in an accident last Friday - she hit a deer at highway speeds. The front of the vehicle crumpled significantly and the steering wheel airbag deployed, and she was totally fine. This was in a 6 year old Toyota Yaris. I want my family back in a Yaris. Or any other vehicle with a 4 star or better NHTSA rating. It really doesn't matter which.
- mikestew 10y ago
  Wow, that's a lot of anecdata and personal feelings. Despite holding way too much of my retirement funds in TSLA, my thoughts were "nothing special". I'm not going to assume that an orthopedic surgeon is in any way qualified to estimate the speed of the oncoming vehicle. He might see the consequences of a collision, but is in no way qualified to correlate qualities of the vehicle to level of injury. In other words, the article could just as easily be about "Aren't Modern Cars with Crumple Zones Awesome?!" unless it can be demonstrated that this Tesla did better in a crash than other cars because...which this article didn't do.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  > The truth is that pretty much any car on the market today will protect its occupants in a crash. From this article: "Earlier this year, we reported on Tesla failing to make the Model X rollover through its own internal testing of the vehicle in preparation for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) tests. Tesla expects the Model X to become the first SUV to get 5-star rating in each of the safety categories, including in rollover." Also: "Tesla not only expects to achieve a 5-star rating, but like it did with the Model S, Tesla expects to get a much better results based on probability of injury. NHTSA’s star rating is based on the probability of a serious injury in a high-speed accident. To get a 5-star rating, the vehicle needs to achieve a probability of injury of 10% or less, and Tesla expects the Model X to achieve around 6.5%:" https://electrek.co/2016/03/07/tesla-flip-model-x-crash-tests-safety/ https://electrek.co/2016/03/07/tesla-flip-model-x-crash-test...

15 points by phr4ts 10y ago

iRobbery 10y ago

Though from what i can see, the GMC looks to be still drivable? The tesla seems totalled.

VeejayRampay 10y ago
It might be a good thing that it looks that way. From what I understand it is because of a "crumple zone" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone). The more energy absorbed by the car itself, the less damage to the passengers apparently.
tsomctl 10y ago
The GMC doesn't look like it has crumple zones at all (do those have crumple zones in the frame, like the new F350s?) The front tires on it are pointing in different directions, I bet the IFS is damaged. It wouldn't be that hard to fix, though.

scjody 10y ago

Wow, that's a lot of anecdata and personal feelings. The truth is that pretty much any car on the market today will protect its occupants in a crash. More anecdata: my wife was in an accident last Friday - she hit a deer at highway speeds. The front of the vehicle crumpled significantly and the steering wheel airbag deployed, and she was totally fine. This was in a 6 year old Toyota Yaris. I want my family back in a Yaris. Or any other vehicle with a 4 star or better NHTSA rating. It really doesn't matter which.

mikestew 10y ago
Wow, that's a lot of anecdata and personal feelings. Despite holding way too much of my retirement funds in TSLA, my thoughts were "nothing special". I'm not going to assume that an orthopedic surgeon is in any way qualified to estimate the speed of the oncoming vehicle. He might see the consequences of a collision, but is in no way qualified to correlate qualities of the vehicle to level of injury. In other words, the article could just as easily be about "Aren't Modern Cars with Crumple Zones Awesome?!" unless it can be demonstrated that this Tesla did better in a crash than other cars because...which this article didn't do.
toomuchtodo 10y ago
> The truth is that pretty much any car on the market today will protect its occupants in a crash. From this article: "Earlier this year, we reported on Tesla failing to make the Model X rollover through its own internal testing of the vehicle in preparation for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) tests. Tesla expects the Model X to become the first SUV to get 5-star rating in each of the safety categories, including in rollover." Also: "Tesla not only expects to achieve a 5-star rating, but like it did with the Model S, Tesla expects to get a much better results based on probability of injury. NHTSA’s star rating is based on the probability of a serious injury in a high-speed accident. To get a 5-star rating, the vehicle needs to achieve a probability of injury of 10% or less, and Tesla expects the Model X to achieve around 6.5%:" https://electrek.co/2016/03/07/tesla-flip-model-x-crash-tests-safety/ https://electrek.co/2016/03/07/tesla-flip-model-x-crash-test...