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>But we did establish specific points where music would turn to combat and sometimes play or stop for cinematic moments. And that ended up being the system that

by rl3 10y ago

>But we did establish specific points where music would turn to combat and sometimes play or stop for cinematic moments. And that ended up being the system that eventually got modified for Deus Ex. I'll always hold a special place in my heart for Alexander Brandon and his work on Deus Ex's score. It still remains one of the most immersive game soundtracks ever made. Tyrian's score was equally magical.

Pxtl 10y ago
Tyrian and Jazz Jackrabbit remain two of my favourites for music. As an aside, anybody know the best way to get Tyrian running on a modern win machine with modern gamepads? I tried tyrian2000 and open Tyrian and no dice.
- voltagex_ 10y ago
  Don't forget One Must Fall: 2097 and Epic Pinball! https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 is the only one I've seen working. What issues did you have?
  - Pxtl 10y ago
    Just took another crack at it, this time not bothering to cobble together the binaries and the nighly but just dl'd the stock package. Worked. Tempted to see if I can get the joysticks working in Destruct mode. No destruct joystick is a bit disappointing.
  - pluma 10y ago
    Oh my god, I thought nobody else remembered those two. Epic Pinball to me is still the best pinball game in history and I played One Must Fall for hours on end despite not actually being a fan of the genre. EDIT: The soundtrack to OMF (1994) is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGRR6MkVmE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGRR6MkVmE EDIT2: Different company but same area: The Crusader series (No Remorse (1995)/No Regret (1996)) had a pretty awesome score as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xs8pQBcZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xs8pQBcZk And of course C&C Tiberian Dawn (1995): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkyB3kTiPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkyB3kTiPQ EDIT3: For sake of completeness, here's Jazz Jackrabbit 1 (1994) and 2 (1998): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6L78lXPHro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6L78lXPHro EDIT4: OMF was declared freeware at some point and works in DOSBox so you can play it online in the browser at the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/msdos_One_Must_Fall_2097_1994 https://archive.org/details/msdos_One_Must_Fall_2097_1994
    - voltagex_ 10y ago
      The last I saw of OMF2097 it was very crashy in DOSBox. If anyone knows enough to debug why it's crashing, let me know.
- animal531 10y ago
  Maybe look into joy2key or similar emulators which will map keys for you from your keyboard to a gamepad.
- frik 10y ago
  Jazz Jackrabbit 1 plus addon. Great game and music. I also played the second game and the unfinished third (3D) one - they were interesting, but lacked in comparison to the first one. Another composer who had a similar music style was Chris Hülsbeck (Turrican, Giant Sisters, etc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FaAs4M3d0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FaAs4M3d0
- ChoGGi 10y ago
  There's OpenTyrian https://bitbucket.org/opentyrian/opentyrian/wiki/Home https://bitbucket.org/opentyrian/opentyrian/wiki/Home voltagex_ already mentioned the freeware version https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 and if you just want the music http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/album/tyrian-original-soundtrack http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/album/tyrian-original-s...
frik 10y ago
Deus Ex 1 was superb. It's one of the top five PC games. Not only the awesome music score, basically every element of the game was great, and still is to this day (only the Unreal Tournament era graphics hasn't aged that well, a remastered version with Unreal 4 engine and 4k textures would be a good move). Sadly, the casualization of Deus Ex already started with Deux Ex 2, everything was dumbed down for the XBox 1 console with its mini-mini-levels and just one ammo type, etc. And the later instalments weren't have their own problems like an outdated graphics engine, far smaller story, small hub levels, daylight, more simple gameplay, almost no physical interaction aka very steril levels, 3rd person camera at times, automatic quick kills, boss enemies, and many more elements that make it very different to Deus Ex 1. I even consider Watch_Dogs 1 and Dishonored 1 a more Deus Ex 1 style gameplay than Deus Ex >2. The Deus Ex 4 has a for example little story and just one hub level and many side missions - and the graphic engine from Hitman feels a bit dated with character animations from the last century. From a real new Deux Ex like game I would like an open world like GTA V or Watch_Dogs where every player can interact eith the world and can shape it with every interaction. Deus Ex 1 is still unique with its original vision, sadly some advanced features were cut, but the original design documents can be found online. I heard Warren Spector is about to make another game, let's hope it's a System Shock 1 or even better Deus Ex 1 like game, with a different brand.
- rl3 10y ago
  >I heard Warren Spector is about to make another game, let's hope it's a System Shock 1 or even better Deus Ex 1 like game, with a different brand. It looks like he's working on System Shock 3, and there's also a remake of the original System Shock in the works by another studio, assuming I've read these correctly. [0] http://www.pcgamer.com/warren-spector-joining-otherside-to-lead-system-shock-3/ http://www.pcgamer.com/warren-spector-joining-otherside-to-l... [1] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock
- digi_owl 10y ago
  I can't forget a line from a PCGamer article on Deus Ex, quoting Spector on the development. Something about him sitting at his desk, almost banging his head against it while repeating "Why do we make things so hard for ourselves?!" over and over. This because of the complexities over interactions and player choices.
sirtaj 10y ago
Perhaps this remaster using extracted MODs and high-quality instrument samples might be of interest to you: http://www.snakebytestudios.com/projects/media/deus-ex-soundtrack/ http://www.snakebytestudios.com/projects/media/deus-ex-sound...

by rl3 10y ago

Pxtl 10y ago

Tyrian and Jazz Jackrabbit remain two of my favourites for music. As an aside, anybody know the best way to get Tyrian running on a modern win machine with modern gamepads? I tried tyrian2000 and open Tyrian and no dice.

voltagex_ 10y ago
Don't forget One Must Fall: 2097 and Epic Pinball! https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 is the only one I've seen working. What issues did you have?
- Pxtl 10y ago
  Just took another crack at it, this time not bothering to cobble together the binaries and the nighly but just dl'd the stock package. Worked. Tempted to see if I can get the joysticks working in Destruct mode. No destruct joystick is a bit disappointing.
- pluma 10y ago
  Oh my god, I thought nobody else remembered those two. Epic Pinball to me is still the best pinball game in history and I played One Must Fall for hours on end despite not actually being a fan of the genre. EDIT: The soundtrack to OMF (1994) is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGRR6MkVmE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGRR6MkVmE EDIT2: Different company but same area: The Crusader series (No Remorse (1995)/No Regret (1996)) had a pretty awesome score as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xs8pQBcZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xs8pQBcZk And of course C&C Tiberian Dawn (1995): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkyB3kTiPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkyB3kTiPQ EDIT3: For sake of completeness, here's Jazz Jackrabbit 1 (1994) and 2 (1998): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6L78lXPHro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6L78lXPHro EDIT4: OMF was declared freeware at some point and works in DOSBox so you can play it online in the browser at the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/msdos_One_Must_Fall_2097_1994 https://archive.org/details/msdos_One_Must_Fall_2097_1994
  - voltagex_ 10y ago
    The last I saw of OMF2097 it was very crashy in DOSBox. If anyone knows enough to debug why it's crashing, let me know.
animal531 10y ago
Maybe look into joy2key or similar emulators which will map keys for you from your keyboard to a gamepad.
frik 10y ago
Jazz Jackrabbit 1 plus addon. Great game and music. I also played the second game and the unfinished third (3D) one - they were interesting, but lacked in comparison to the first one. Another composer who had a similar music style was Chris Hülsbeck (Turrican, Giant Sisters, etc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FaAs4M3d0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FaAs4M3d0
ChoGGi 10y ago
There's OpenTyrian https://bitbucket.org/opentyrian/opentyrian/wiki/Home https://bitbucket.org/opentyrian/opentyrian/wiki/Home voltagex_ already mentioned the freeware version https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 https://www.gog.com/game/tyrian_2000 and if you just want the music http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/album/tyrian-original-soundtrack http://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/album/tyrian-original-s...

frik 10y ago

Deus Ex 1 was superb. It's one of the top five PC games. Not only the awesome music score, basically every element of the game was great, and still is to this day (only the Unreal Tournament era graphics hasn't aged that well, a remastered version with Unreal 4 engine and 4k textures would be a good move). Sadly, the casualization of Deus Ex already started with Deux Ex 2, everything was dumbed down for the XBox 1 console with its mini-mini-levels and just one ammo type, etc. And the later instalments weren't have their own problems like an outdated graphics engine, far smaller story, small hub levels, daylight, more simple gameplay, almost no physical interaction aka very steril levels, 3rd person camera at times, automatic quick kills, boss enemies, and many more elements that make it very different to Deus Ex 1. I even consider Watch_Dogs 1 and Dishonored 1 a more Deus Ex 1 style gameplay than Deus Ex >2. The Deus Ex 4 has a for example little story and just one hub level and many side missions - and the graphic engine from Hitman feels a bit dated with character animations from the last century. From a real new Deux Ex like game I would like an open world like GTA V or Watch_Dogs where every player can interact eith the world and can shape it with every interaction. Deus Ex 1 is still unique with its original vision, sadly some advanced features were cut, but the original design documents can be found online. I heard Warren Spector is about to make another game, let's hope it's a System Shock 1 or even better Deus Ex 1 like game, with a different brand.

rl3 10y ago
>I heard Warren Spector is about to make another game, let's hope it's a System Shock 1 or even better Deus Ex 1 like game, with a different brand. It looks like he's working on System Shock 3, and there's also a remake of the original System Shock in the works by another studio, assuming I've read these correctly. [0] http://www.pcgamer.com/warren-spector-joining-otherside-to-lead-system-shock-3/ http://www.pcgamer.com/warren-spector-joining-otherside-to-l... [1] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock
digi_owl 10y ago
I can't forget a line from a PCGamer article on Deus Ex, quoting Spector on the development. Something about him sitting at his desk, almost banging his head against it while repeating "Why do we make things so hard for ourselves?!" over and over. This because of the complexities over interactions and player choices.

sirtaj 10y ago

Perhaps this remaster using extracted MODs and high-quality instrument samples might be of interest to you: http://www.snakebytestudios.com/projects/media/deus-ex-soundtrack/ http://www.snakebytestudios.com/projects/media/deus-ex-sound...