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> Yeah, it's probably overly pessamistic; no, it's not fair. But I'm alive and uninjured. Don't you think that's a little bit of survivorship bias? I'm sure th

> Yeah, it's probably overly pessamistic; no, it's not fair. But I'm alive and uninjured. Don't you think that's a little bit of survivorship bias? I'm sure there are plenty of cyclist who have been killed who 100% agreed and rode in that way, but they obviously can't speak on the matter. Of course it is dangerous and potentially lethal when you get hit by a car, but how can you suggest that it's not beneficial to have measures in place that at least attempt to protect cyclist. It makes cyclist 'feel' safer, because it is in fact safer. Look at countries like the Netherlands that have excellent cycling lanes and safety measures. It makes drivers more aware that there are cyclist around them, and urges them to be more cognizant of their surroundings.

falcolas 10y ago
Would additional space for bikes hurt bikers? I think it depends. If there is enough room to add better bike lanes without affecting car traffic negatively, the it will probably help. But if cars are forced into smaller spaces, I think more cars "in a hurry" will disregard the lines in favor of a clear road. Sure, they will be in the wrong, but it won't help the dead cyclists any. And places like SF, with their already bad car traffic and limited land? They would definitely fall in the latter case in my book.
- hx87 10y ago
  > but it won't help the dead cyclists any Perhaps if more bicyclists wore GoPros as a normal part of their travels (or more CCTV were pointed at bike paths), the legal system will reduce the number of violations and thus deaths.