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Really? Russia is now having a military base in Iran and Turkey will likely leave NATO and cooperate with Russia. Israel is also no friend of the Obama administ

Really? Russia is now having a military base in Iran and Turkey will likely leave NATO and cooperate with Russia. Israel is also no friend of the Obama administration to put it mildly. Oh and we here in the EU are also very happy with the current Western elite (which hopefully will soon be destroyed by a Trump administration) sending us millions of illiterate Arab men. Maybe Obama will negotiate with ISIS to open a military base in the Caliphate. Everything seems possible with liberal progressives at this point. I've already seen feminists claiming that Sharia law is very feminist, so it seems they are getting accustomed to the idea.

rdtsc 10y ago
> Israel is also no friend of the Obama administration to put it mildly. Why do you say that? I understand US is sending billions of dollars of military aid. AIPAC is active and lively in the US lobbying scene and so on.
- DominikR 10y ago
  For multiple reasons that all weaken Israels position in the region. 1) Removed Libyan dictator Gaddafi who played ball with Western powers and kept illegal migration to the EU at bay. Replaced with ISIS style radicals. 2) Supported removal of Egypt dictator Mubarak who was definitely an ally of the West and Israel. Replaced by Muslim Brotherhood fanatics who are enemies of Israel and the West. When the Egyptian military removed them from power Obama tried to intervene on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood. 3) Strengthened Irans position in the world by lifting sanctions. If they want nuclear weapons this would be the time. I'm not saying that I would have supported the coup against Mosaddegh or that I would have supported Iraq on invading Iran. But I would make it very hard for a government run by religious fanatics to acquire nuclear weapons. 4) Syria is an enemy of Israel, but they sure as hell do not want fanatics like ISIS roaming free in the region. 5) Wester main stream media is today very critical of Israel, more so in the EU than in the US. Products from Israel must now be labelled in some EU countries to make it easier for consumers to boycott trade. Some EU countries are even discussing sanctions against Israel. But trade with Saudi Arabia is fine.
  - rdtsc 10y ago
    That makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

rdtsc 10y ago

> Israel is also no friend of the Obama administration to put it mildly. Why do you say that? I understand US is sending billions of dollars of military aid. AIPAC is active and lively in the US lobbying scene and so on.

DominikR 10y ago
For multiple reasons that all weaken Israels position in the region. 1) Removed Libyan dictator Gaddafi who played ball with Western powers and kept illegal migration to the EU at bay. Replaced with ISIS style radicals. 2) Supported removal of Egypt dictator Mubarak who was definitely an ally of the West and Israel. Replaced by Muslim Brotherhood fanatics who are enemies of Israel and the West. When the Egyptian military removed them from power Obama tried to intervene on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood. 3) Strengthened Irans position in the world by lifting sanctions. If they want nuclear weapons this would be the time. I'm not saying that I would have supported the coup against Mosaddegh or that I would have supported Iraq on invading Iran. But I would make it very hard for a government run by religious fanatics to acquire nuclear weapons. 4) Syria is an enemy of Israel, but they sure as hell do not want fanatics like ISIS roaming free in the region. 5) Wester main stream media is today very critical of Israel, more so in the EU than in the US. Products from Israel must now be labelled in some EU countries to make it easier for consumers to boycott trade. Some EU countries are even discussing sanctions against Israel. But trade with Saudi Arabia is fine.
- rdtsc 10y ago
  That makes sense. Thanks for explaining.