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No, but originally there were a lot of Apple employees who participated in MacPorts in their spare time, and the project leaders included people from the open s
by mwfunk 10y ago
No, but originally there were a lot of Apple employees who participated in MacPorts in their spare time, and the project leaders included people from the open source world who were working at Apple. I think that's still the case but probably not to the same degree as it was 10-15 years ago.
The dawn of OS X coincided with the tail end of what was a rather insane open source hype bubble that existed in the industry in the late-'90s. This was the same era where lots of people were convinced that everyone was going to be running desktop Linux in just a couple more years (this is the origin of "this is the year of Linux on the desktop" jokes), and ESR hadn't squandered his credibility quite yet. It was a very different time.
Anyway, point being, MacOSForge is in part a historical artifact of a time when there was an open source bandwagon that a lot of SV companies had jumped on and were encouraging their employees to jump on as well. After a few years the industry restabilized and many companies weren't as publicly gung ho about open source, but for a while at least there were some surprising initiatives from unexpected companies.
I don't miss the messianic/apocalyptic/mystical/tribal/just-plain-silly overtones that surrounded open source hype in the media and in the community in those days, but I do deeply miss the surge of otherwise opaque corporations publicly committing to open source and actually following through on it for a while. It's amazing what can happen when the entire tech press is drunk on excitement about open source, leading to board meetings all over SV in which every CEO was getting pestered to have an articulated open source strategy for how they will remain relevant in this brave new world that was supposedly just around the corner.
So that's the era that MacOSForge was born into, and at the time it probably seemed bursting with potential. This was also the era of bootable Darwin ISO images (and OpenDarwin after that). There are many reasons a lot of that stuff faded away over the years. My theory is that many of these initiatives solved problems that people didn't have. Why put money into putting stuff out there that nobody cares about, and why would anybody care about it if the company wasn't pouring money into it? It's a chicken and egg problem unfortunately, I don't think there's anyone to blame for it. Some things just aren't going to be interesting to enough people to merit throwing money at them. I'm just glad that much of macOS continues to be open source, even if most of it is in the form of a bunch of tarballs that get put up on opensource.apple.com after every release.
TL;DR as others have pointed out, MacOSForge itself is (was?) Apple. MacPorts is an independent project and will live on, but benefitted from being born in an era of unusually high industry enthusiasm for open source.
- ktta 10y agoThanks for the info!