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That's a very nice quote. I feel the same way when other people that have my nationality win a sport event or do something that's not common, and I'm supposed t

That's a very nice quote. I feel the same way when other people that have my nationality win a sport event or do something that's not common, and I'm supposed to be proud because of it, and he put the name of the country in altitude. I'm like wut? I don't know him, and never will. I seriously don't understand nationalism.

adiabatty 10y ago
Seen elsewhere: "If the athletes didn't have flags attached to their names, how would we know whom to root for?"
- SixSigma 10y ago
  I watch sport because I enjoy watching sports, not because my guy wins
  - enraged_camel 10y ago
    The vast, vast majority of people are not like this.
johan_larson 10y ago
If you want others to give a shit about you, you need to show you give a shit about them. If you want the service of institutions that large groups of people have built and run and pay for, you need to show you are part of them. They did not build these institutions for others, they built these institutions for themselves. Things like national sporting events are put on in part to showcase the accomplishments of the group and to encourage affiliation to it. They are ritual. They are like church services. They are like parades. If you go out of your way to denigrate them, you are showing disrespect not just for the event itself, but for the group that put them on. And if you persist in these acts of disaffiliation, don't be surprised if that group increasingly excludes you in ways large and small. You want to see what it's like to be an outsider in your own country, someone who really truly is considered one of THEM rather than one of US? Try asking an African-American, particularly an old one. It isn't pretty. You are not so strong and wise you can build a good life for yourself, alone. All through your life, you need to lean on what your family, your town, your people, and your state have built and are willing to share with you. So try to be civil and show a bit of respect when they are celebrating.
- truth_sentinell 10y ago
  Ok. That escalated quickly. But I think you're mixing pears and apples here. We don't live in a tribe anymore. We live in cities with millions of people, with the average humans having what? 10 friends? Most people don't give a shit about others already. Just go to into a train, they don't even look at each other. Also, I don't understand how I must cheer others of my country in order to live in society? It seems you're implying that you have to care about others in order to use public services? I pay my taxes! That's all there is to it. And on a side note I do care about other people, but people with special circumstances and without flags.
  - mark_edward 10y ago
    Some people want to pretend we still live in villages and fiefs where we can actually know and care about the people who provide for us. I can't even number how many people touched the parts of this laptop.
- nzjrs 10y ago
  Best reply of this thread.

adiabatty 10y ago

Seen elsewhere: "If the athletes didn't have flags attached to their names, how would we know whom to root for?"

SixSigma 10y ago
I watch sport because I enjoy watching sports, not because my guy wins
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  The vast, vast majority of people are not like this.

johan_larson 10y ago

If you want others to give a shit about you, you need to show you give a shit about them. If you want the service of institutions that large groups of people have built and run and pay for, you need to show you are part of them. They did not build these institutions for others, they built these institutions for themselves. Things like national sporting events are put on in part to showcase the accomplishments of the group and to encourage affiliation to it. They are ritual. They are like church services. They are like parades. If you go out of your way to denigrate them, you are showing disrespect not just for the event itself, but for the group that put them on. And if you persist in these acts of disaffiliation, don't be surprised if that group increasingly excludes you in ways large and small. You want to see what it's like to be an outsider in your own country, someone who really truly is considered one of THEM rather than one of US? Try asking an African-American, particularly an old one. It isn't pretty. You are not so strong and wise you can build a good life for yourself, alone. All through your life, you need to lean on what your family, your town, your people, and your state have built and are willing to share with you. So try to be civil and show a bit of respect when they are celebrating.

truth_sentinell 10y ago
Ok. That escalated quickly. But I think you're mixing pears and apples here. We don't live in a tribe anymore. We live in cities with millions of people, with the average humans having what? 10 friends? Most people don't give a shit about others already. Just go to into a train, they don't even look at each other. Also, I don't understand how I must cheer others of my country in order to live in society? It seems you're implying that you have to care about others in order to use public services? I pay my taxes! That's all there is to it. And on a side note I do care about other people, but people with special circumstances and without flags.
- mark_edward 10y ago
  Some people want to pretend we still live in villages and fiefs where we can actually know and care about the people who provide for us. I can't even number how many people touched the parts of this laptop.
nzjrs 10y ago
Best reply of this thread.