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This is something of a strawman tbh. The computing equivalent of implying anyone who has ever taken their cloths off and had sex must be addicted to pornography

by mSparks 10y ago

This is something of a strawman tbh. The computing equivalent of implying anyone who has ever taken their cloths off and had sex must be addicted to pornography. Just because people use some software or websites that publicly display themselves, does not mean they would ever be willing to accept everything they do on their computer being visible to random strangers. Kids on the other hand... Stripping away privacy has them so unihibited the average not-even-teenagers-yet cyberkids are sexting friends and total strangers alike instead of drinking an old fashioned beer. And I used to worry they would never learn to write by hand :(

sverige 10y ago
Well, there's that, but I had in mind the fact that Google and FB and Apple and others gather as much data or more on people than MS. Granted, it's not necessarily all the stuff MS might be getting through a compromised OS, but it is the kind of stuff the parent mentioned.
- mSparks 10y ago
  But it's different data. People use google and facebook with zero expectation of "privacy" - in fact, not being "private" is the actual reason they use them. Its a very big step to be in a situation where [i]everything[/i] you do on a computer comes with zero expectation of privacy, despite the corporate attempts to machinate the two because cloud. I'm seeing a greater and greater move to "airgapped" (network but not internet connected) machines in the home for exactly this reason. (even if it is still very small scale, that's where these trends start). I'm currently looking for a solution that blocks all connections by default for the entire network, with a simple gui to allow failed hostnames/ip addresses and with the option to demilitarise one or two server style machines for torrents and cloud services that then serve only that content to the rest of the internal network. (like hostfile blocking only at the IP level and defaulting to whitelist). Something like a blend of IPTABLES and wireshark with a simple ui. I know they exist (I've seen something similar in large corporate offices), but not seen anything for SHO.
  - sverige 10y ago
    May I recommend OpenBSD and pf to you? No gui but still relatively straightforward to set up what you're describing.

by mSparks 10y ago

sverige 10y ago

Well, there's that, but I had in mind the fact that Google and FB and Apple and others gather as much data or more on people than MS. Granted, it's not necessarily all the stuff MS might be getting through a compromised OS, but it is the kind of stuff the parent mentioned.

mSparks 10y ago
But it's different data. People use google and facebook with zero expectation of "privacy" - in fact, not being "private" is the actual reason they use them. Its a very big step to be in a situation where [i]everything[/i] you do on a computer comes with zero expectation of privacy, despite the corporate attempts to machinate the two because cloud. I'm seeing a greater and greater move to "airgapped" (network but not internet connected) machines in the home for exactly this reason. (even if it is still very small scale, that's where these trends start). I'm currently looking for a solution that blocks all connections by default for the entire network, with a simple gui to allow failed hostnames/ip addresses and with the option to demilitarise one or two server style machines for torrents and cloud services that then serve only that content to the rest of the internal network. (like hostfile blocking only at the IP level and defaulting to whitelist). Something like a blend of IPTABLES and wireshark with a simple ui. I know they exist (I've seen something similar in large corporate offices), but not seen anything for SHO.
- sverige 10y ago
  May I recommend OpenBSD and pf to you? No gui but still relatively straightforward to set up what you're describing.