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How many thousands of Thunderbird development hours could have been paid with this completely unnecessary nonsense?

by anc84 10y ago

kennell 10y ago
This. Or any other product for that matter. I understand that all organisations with a certain size tend to develop some sort of silly politics and bureaucratic workflows. But Mozilla seams to have a awful lot of nonsense going on in the last few years.
isaacaggrey 10y ago
Do you really think a desktop mail client is where Mozilla should be investing?
- sangnoir 10y ago
  > Do you really think a desktop mail client is where Mozilla should be investing? Yes! A thousand times Yes! The first paragraph of Mozilla's mission statement[1] reads "Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all. An Internet that truly puts people first, where individuals can shape their own experience and are empowered, safe and independent" Email is still a very important and unsolved part of the internet, but Mozilla has dropped the ball and is instead doubling down on IoT and other peripheral projects. I don't see any other email client or email provider in existance that empowers the individuals the way Mozilla could, which is a crying shame. 1.https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/
- anc84 10y ago
  Yes! In the name of privacy and control we need to cherish desktop programs. Why should anyone but me know how often I read Lilly's mail from 2009.
- askafriend 10y ago
  I think that's his point. It would have been a better use of their money doing something like that, than something so utterly pointless as this. And I'd even excuse this exercise in branding if the results were actually good...but alas. Keep in mind I absolutely value good design and branding. I think it's critical. So I'm not just some curmudgeon who doesn't understand the value of something like this. But if you're going to do a rebrand, you have to understand deeply why you're doing it and do it in a way that's evolutionary. This is way too revolutionary for a foundation that mostly stays in the background and whose brand is held up by the brand of it's products like Firefox moreso than it's own brand.
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usrusr 10y ago
Judging by the quality of the contenders, i'd say about three. Hours, not thousands of.

How many thousands of Thunderbird development hours could have been paid with this completely unnecessary nonsense?

by anc84 10y ago

How many thousands of Thunderbird development hours could have been paid with this completely unnecessary nonsense?

This. Or any other product for that matter. I understand that all organisations with a certain size tend to develop some sort of silly politics and bureaucratic workflows. But Mozilla seams to have a awful lot of nonsense going on in the last few years.

isaacaggrey 10y ago

Do you really think a desktop mail client is where Mozilla should be investing?

sangnoir 10y ago
> Do you really think a desktop mail client is where Mozilla should be investing? Yes! A thousand times Yes! The first paragraph of Mozilla's mission statement[1] reads "Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all. An Internet that truly puts people first, where individuals can shape their own experience and are empowered, safe and independent" Email is still a very important and unsolved part of the internet, but Mozilla has dropped the ball and is instead doubling down on IoT and other peripheral projects. I don't see any other email client or email provider in existance that empowers the individuals the way Mozilla could, which is a crying shame. 1.https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/
anc84 10y ago
Yes! In the name of privacy and control we need to cherish desktop programs. Why should anyone but me know how often I read Lilly's mail from 2009.
askafriend 10y ago
I think that's his point. It would have been a better use of their money doing something like that, than something so utterly pointless as this. And I'd even excuse this exercise in branding if the results were actually good...but alas. Keep in mind I absolutely value good design and branding. I think it's critical. So I'm not just some curmudgeon who doesn't understand the value of something like this. But if you're going to do a rebrand, you have to understand deeply why you're doing it and do it in a way that's evolutionary. This is way too revolutionary for a foundation that mostly stays in the background and whose brand is held up by the brand of it's products like Firefox moreso than it's own brand.
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usrusr 10y ago

Judging by the quality of the contenders, i'd say about three. Hours, not thousands of.