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Is he trying to sell mariaDB now too? I mean, it's genius from the business side. Unless i got the story wrong, he sold MySQL after people helped him create it

Is he trying to sell mariaDB now too? I mean, it's genius from the business side. Unless i got the story wrong, he sold MySQL after people helped him create it. Forked it, and now it's turning the fork into MySQL/Oracle profit cow. Either somebody correct me, or I'm going to assume "for as long as there's are sheep..."

cwyers 10y ago
His MySQL fork, MariaDB, is still going to be GPL, because he doesn't have the ability to change the license on the code Oracle owns.
- quickben 10y ago
  Ah thanks, that makes sense now.
syshum 10y ago
WHile I despise this new licensing, your redition of history is not correct Monty sold MySQL to Sun, he believed Sun would be good steward of the project, provide it the resources it needed, and allow it to flourish remaining Open Source When Oracle bought Sun, Monty and most of the MySQL devs where very very very very very concerned that Orcale would be detrimental to MySQL going forward so they forked it and founded MariaDB to replace Oracle's mySQL Some of their fears never came to be, but Oracle has closed the development of mysql is many ways, it is not as bad as it was orginally feared, but it no where near as open as it was under Sun.
- johannes1234321 10y ago
  The fork already happend during the time with Sun.
  - syshum 10y ago
    The fork happened while the sale was happening.
- gaius 10y ago
  Sun ultimately paid $1Bn and had nothing to show for it but the domain name mysql.com. That's why Oracle bought them and not the other way round...
  - syshum 10y ago
    What... no. To believe that MySQL was Sun downfall is extremely ignorant. Mysql was not even Sun's largest project. Further mysql is still extremely popular where mariadb is less so.
    - gaius 10y ago
      It was symptomatic of their lack of financial control thats for sure. It doesn't matter how popular it is, if you are going to spend $1bn of your shareholders money on it, it needs to generate the revenue - and Sun never figured it out.
      - syshum 10y ago
        It did not have enough time to become profitable. Sun bought Mysql in 2008, they were looking to sell to IBM in late 2008/early 2009, and by April 2009 had a tentative deal with Oracle...

cwyers 10y ago

His MySQL fork, MariaDB, is still going to be GPL, because he doesn't have the ability to change the license on the code Oracle owns.

quickben 10y ago
Ah thanks, that makes sense now.

syshum 10y ago

WHile I despise this new licensing, your redition of history is not correct Monty sold MySQL to Sun, he believed Sun would be good steward of the project, provide it the resources it needed, and allow it to flourish remaining Open Source When Oracle bought Sun, Monty and most of the MySQL devs where very very very very very concerned that Orcale would be detrimental to MySQL going forward so they forked it and founded MariaDB to replace Oracle's mySQL Some of their fears never came to be, but Oracle has closed the development of mysql is many ways, it is not as bad as it was orginally feared, but it no where near as open as it was under Sun.

johannes1234321 10y ago
The fork already happend during the time with Sun.
- syshum 10y ago
  The fork happened while the sale was happening.
gaius 10y ago
Sun ultimately paid $1Bn and had nothing to show for it but the domain name mysql.com. That's why Oracle bought them and not the other way round...
- syshum 10y ago
  What... no. To believe that MySQL was Sun downfall is extremely ignorant. Mysql was not even Sun's largest project. Further mysql is still extremely popular where mariadb is less so.
  - gaius 10y ago
    It was symptomatic of their lack of financial control thats for sure. It doesn't matter how popular it is, if you are going to spend $1bn of your shareholders money on it, it needs to generate the revenue - and Sun never figured it out.
    - syshum 10y ago
      It did not have enough time to become profitable. Sun bought Mysql in 2008, they were looking to sell to IBM in late 2008/early 2009, and by April 2009 had a tentative deal with Oracle...