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That's excellent they meet your needs. It should be mentioned the lack of drivers for Linux is an issue and some of the binary ones available are flaky at best.

That's excellent they meet your needs. It should be mentioned the lack of drivers for Linux is an issue and some of the binary ones available are flaky at best. That said, my household uses a mix of Linux, Windows 10, various IOT, and Android. I don't have things crash when USB devices are attached; sometimes they just don't work on the *nix machines.

nly 10y ago
Lack of drivers for Linux? Did I wake up in 1996?
- pjmlp 10y ago
  No if using desktops, now laptops....
  - nly 10y ago
    Ok, so 2006 then. I've had 3 laptops over 4 years and never had a single issue. You ancedotal is just as good as mine.
    - arcticfox 10y ago
      It's not anecdotal that support for Linux on some hardware is god awful compared to Windows. If you want a source, I followed this 20-page guide to installing Ubuntu on my SP3 and I still have issues. I had to buy a wired mouse because the Bluetooth drivers are terrible. The networking driver only initiates correctly 50% of the time. I understand that is also anecdotal, but the fact that this guide exists is not -> http://blog.davidelner.com/dual-booting-ubuntu-14-10-on-the-surface-pro-3/ http://blog.davidelner.com/dual-booting-ubuntu-14-10-on-the-...
    - WayneBro 10y ago
      Your anecodote is not good because it doesn't jive with a very high volume of other anecdotes that can be seen on the Internet. So maybe take a look around? Anyway, for my own anecdote - I have a five year old Dell XPS L502X that has an Optimus style video card in it - Windows 7, 8 and 10 run beautifully on it with no drivers problems. Meanwhile, any Linux distro I've tried to install directly on the hardware just barfs itself.
    - pjmlp 10y ago
      So you want another anecodote? An Asus Eeebook bought with Ubuntu pre-installed in 2012, everything should work out of the box, right? Actually no, from the time I bought it until the wlan driver worked properly took around 6 months. I just kept it and constrained myself to LAN during those months instead of returning the laptop, because I wanted to somehow support GNU/Linux on laptops.
    - electricEmu 10y ago
      My Dell XPS 13.The high resolution screen and touchscreen have issues. Keyboard still takes fiddling. It's a Linux supported laptop that ships with Ubuntu on the lower definition screen. So yeah, driver support. It still sucks, just not as bad as 96. Honestly, I remember it better in 96 since the hardware was simpler you could usually get everything to kind of work.

nly 10y ago

Lack of drivers for Linux? Did I wake up in 1996?

pjmlp 10y ago
No if using desktops, now laptops....
- nly 10y ago
  Ok, so 2006 then. I've had 3 laptops over 4 years and never had a single issue. You ancedotal is just as good as mine.
  - arcticfox 10y ago
    It's not anecdotal that support for Linux on some hardware is god awful compared to Windows. If you want a source, I followed this 20-page guide to installing Ubuntu on my SP3 and I still have issues. I had to buy a wired mouse because the Bluetooth drivers are terrible. The networking driver only initiates correctly 50% of the time. I understand that is also anecdotal, but the fact that this guide exists is not -> http://blog.davidelner.com/dual-booting-ubuntu-14-10-on-the-surface-pro-3/ http://blog.davidelner.com/dual-booting-ubuntu-14-10-on-the-...
  - WayneBro 10y ago
    Your anecodote is not good because it doesn't jive with a very high volume of other anecdotes that can be seen on the Internet. So maybe take a look around? Anyway, for my own anecdote - I have a five year old Dell XPS L502X that has an Optimus style video card in it - Windows 7, 8 and 10 run beautifully on it with no drivers problems. Meanwhile, any Linux distro I've tried to install directly on the hardware just barfs itself.
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    So you want another anecodote? An Asus Eeebook bought with Ubuntu pre-installed in 2012, everything should work out of the box, right? Actually no, from the time I bought it until the wlan driver worked properly took around 6 months. I just kept it and constrained myself to LAN during those months instead of returning the laptop, because I wanted to somehow support GNU/Linux on laptops.
  - electricEmu 10y ago
    My Dell XPS 13.The high resolution screen and touchscreen have issues. Keyboard still takes fiddling. It's a Linux supported laptop that ships with Ubuntu on the lower definition screen. So yeah, driver support. It still sucks, just not as bad as 96. Honestly, I remember it better in 96 since the hardware was simpler you could usually get everything to kind of work.