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Next step, end-of-life...

by douche 10y ago

daveguy 10y ago
Normally I would agree, but not in this case. It is unlikely they will EOL these services any time soon. They are paid services and could represent a significant revenue stream for Google.
- chippy 10y ago
  > could represent a significant revenue stream If it does not, we should, like other Google offerings, expect it to be cut. Google has a strict internal business case (new from around 2010 or so) - what they do now has to make money, it's no longer enough to be getting more people to use the internet, or increase use in the brand, the services has to make business sense. Let's hope it is used and profitable, eh.
  - daveguy 10y ago
    > what they do now has to make money That's a fair concern. However, as of 2015 they already have between 3 and 5 % of the cloud market [0][1]. It is likely they are already profitable with the usage they have (cloud is pretty high margin). There have been very few google products that were officially taken out of beta. Google Search and Google Mail are two of those. True, Google has a terrible reputation for dumping small dev and consumer facing products. Their cloud offerings are a completely different category. Not least of which, because they have no free tier -- only free trial. Anyone who continues to use Google Cloud products is paying for them. [0] http://www.businessinsider.com/why-amazon-is-so-hard-to-topple-in-the-cloud-and-where-everybody-else-falls-2015-10 http://www.businessinsider.com/why-amazon-is-so-hard-to-topp... [1] http://dazeinfo.com/2015/05/22/amazon-aws-google-cloud-microsoft-azure/ http://dazeinfo.com/2015/05/22/amazon-aws-google-cloud-micro...
- ffggvv 10y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7667976 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7667976
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    You are linking to a disputed "leak", which has been more or less debunked, in response to something completely unrelated. Did you think this through?
jacques_chester 10y ago
As the saying goes: yeah, no. Sure, Google's less-loved consumer-facing products and minor dev stuff tend to die various kinds of sad deaths. But they don't make much money. Not compared to the Mississippi of Money that is advertising. But let's remember: most of the money in the world isn't flowing from consumers to businesses. It sure looks that way, because many of the largest companies in the world make their money selling to consumers. But it's an illusion. Most of the money sloshing around is in the structure of production: the vast web of inputs, transformations and services that fan in until it gets to you presenting a wad of the hard-earned. These days the structure of production needs information to make it work. And you need some sort of Turing machine to do stuff with and to that information. Other machines to acquire, retrieve and store it. Still other machines to make all the others go. And someone clever to run all these things. Now that it's simple to take chunks of information work and just magically send it somewhere, why the hell would you do something as capitally, criminally inefficient as buy super-rapidly depreciating atoms? Squirting electrons down a wire is fantastically better business. The worldwide economy is measured in the many trillions. Some major, majority fraction of that economy is the structure of production. Some not-insubstantial percentage of the structure of production is in managing and transforming information. Total addressable market is billions, heaped on billions, with a side serving of deep-fried billions. If Google abandon GCP, the shareholders won't need to have voting control to exact vengeance. They'll bodily drag execs into the street and beat them to death with rolled-up Amazon boxes.
- quickben 10y ago
  Of course, since physics is still a thing, the above is unsustainable. Graph electricity usage increase on the planet, and in 20-100 years we will need to convert the output of the sun, to sustain they present slope. Hence why it will change to be in equilibrium with that you were replying to. Just don't mistake the current spur with some kind of everlasting trend.
bitmapbrother 10y ago
Slow day in "enterprise C# development"?

Next step, end-of-life...

by douche 10y ago

Next step, end-of-life...

Normally I would agree, but not in this case. It is unlikely they will EOL these services any time soon. They are paid services and could represent a significant revenue stream for Google.

chippy 10y ago
> could represent a significant revenue stream If it does not, we should, like other Google offerings, expect it to be cut. Google has a strict internal business case (new from around 2010 or so) - what they do now has to make money, it's no longer enough to be getting more people to use the internet, or increase use in the brand, the services has to make business sense. Let's hope it is used and profitable, eh.
- daveguy 10y ago
  > what they do now has to make money That's a fair concern. However, as of 2015 they already have between 3 and 5 % of the cloud market [0][1]. It is likely they are already profitable with the usage they have (cloud is pretty high margin). There have been very few google products that were officially taken out of beta. Google Search and Google Mail are two of those. True, Google has a terrible reputation for dumping small dev and consumer facing products. Their cloud offerings are a completely different category. Not least of which, because they have no free tier -- only free trial. Anyone who continues to use Google Cloud products is paying for them. [0] http://www.businessinsider.com/why-amazon-is-so-hard-to-topple-in-the-cloud-and-where-everybody-else-falls-2015-10 http://www.businessinsider.com/why-amazon-is-so-hard-to-topp... [1] http://dazeinfo.com/2015/05/22/amazon-aws-google-cloud-microsoft-azure/ http://dazeinfo.com/2015/05/22/amazon-aws-google-cloud-micro...
ffggvv 10y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7667976 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7667976
- scrollaway 10y ago
  You are linking to a disputed "leak", which has been more or less debunked, in response to something completely unrelated. Did you think this through?

jacques_chester 10y ago

As the saying goes: yeah, no. Sure, Google's less-loved consumer-facing products and minor dev stuff tend to die various kinds of sad deaths. But they don't make much money. Not compared to the Mississippi of Money that is advertising. But let's remember: most of the money in the world isn't flowing from consumers to businesses. It sure looks that way, because many of the largest companies in the world make their money selling to consumers. But it's an illusion. Most of the money sloshing around is in the structure of production: the vast web of inputs, transformations and services that fan in until it gets to you presenting a wad of the hard-earned. These days the structure of production needs information to make it work. And you need some sort of Turing machine to do stuff with and to that information. Other machines to acquire, retrieve and store it. Still other machines to make all the others go. And someone clever to run all these things. Now that it's simple to take chunks of information work and just magically send it somewhere, why the hell would you do something as capitally, criminally inefficient as buy super-rapidly depreciating atoms? Squirting electrons down a wire is fantastically better business. The worldwide economy is measured in the many trillions. Some major, majority fraction of that economy is the structure of production. Some not-insubstantial percentage of the structure of production is in managing and transforming information. Total addressable market is billions, heaped on billions, with a side serving of deep-fried billions. If Google abandon GCP, the shareholders won't need to have voting control to exact vengeance. They'll bodily drag execs into the street and beat them to death with rolled-up Amazon boxes.

quickben 10y ago
Of course, since physics is still a thing, the above is unsustainable. Graph electricity usage increase on the planet, and in 20-100 years we will need to convert the output of the sun, to sustain they present slope. Hence why it will change to be in equilibrium with that you were replying to. Just don't mistake the current spur with some kind of everlasting trend.

bitmapbrother 10y ago

Slow day in "enterprise C# development"?