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"I sure hope we did." I'm sure the 'dogs of war' tried. In '60 Eisenhower green-lit an invasion plan by the CIA (Dulles) in response to the nationalisation of
by bootload 10y ago
"I sure hope we did."
I'm sure the 'dogs of war' tried.
In '60 Eisenhower green-lit an invasion plan by the CIA (Dulles) in response to the nationalisation of Esso, Standard Oil and Shell in Cuba. Does this sound familiar? (https://www.jfklibrary.org/JFK/JFK-in-History/The-Bay-of-Pigs.aspx https://www.jfklibrary.org/JFK/JFK-in-History/The-Bay-of-Pig...)
It's election year. Kennedy was elected in '60 and a key part of that was equalising the 'missile-gap'. There was no missile gap. US had 100 times the capability of USSR. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Balance_of_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Balance_o...)
In '61 Kennedy didn't provide ^air support^ for Operation Mongoose organised by Lansdale. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project) Dulles is fired as head of the CIA.
In October '62, the US B team of Generals (Joint Chiefs of Staff) LeMay, Lansdale, Anderson, Anderson, Shoup and Wheeler were being pushed for implementing the first strike over Russian (LeMay) and invading Cuba again (Lansdale). (https://govbooktalk.gpo.gov/2012/10/18/hawks-vs-doves-the-joint-chiefs-and-the-cuban-missile-crisis/ https://govbooktalk.gpo.gov/2012/10/18/hawks-vs-doves-the-jo... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project) The time clock of the missile crisis, shows the operational nature of the CIA. (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/bayofpigs/chron.html http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/bayofpigs/chron.html)
Cooler heads prevailed. Khrushchev and Kennedy negotiated secretly, while the military of both sides maintained their cool. Just as well. It's now known that Cuba was in the possession of ^tactical^ nuclear weapons. So without any control from the USSR, field commanders ^could^ have deployed them if Cuba was invaded. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Post-crisis_revelations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Post-cris...)
In '63, JFK was assassinated. A year after that Khrushchev was rolled. The change of US political direction allowed the war footing to escalate, ever since.
Lansdale, LeMay, Dulles, Nixon, the CIA and US arms and resource companies all had great careers in the post '63 era. [0]
[0] The inference here is you can find potential conspirators that lead to 22 November 1963. The same names appear again and again in the "Assassination Records Review Board: Files of Douglas P. Horne" (http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/horne-files.html http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/horne-file...)
- pekk 10y agoYou're not responding to the point of the post you are replying to, you're just talking about how the Bay of Pigs was scary. Nobody is saying it wasn't scary, but that isn't the sense in which the word "plan" is used with regard to military planning. You are ignoring that point and it's a valid point.
- bootload 10y agoHistory lesson: listen to "Col. L. Fletcher Prouty Explains the Bay of Pigs and Viet Nam" to understand planning of this era ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz56WytRlqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz56WytRlqo