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YES. This is the difference between LEVEL 3 autonomy and LEVEL 4 autonomy, which I didn't know about until this week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomou
by chubot 10y ago
YES. This is the difference between LEVEL 3 autonomy and LEVEL 4 autonomy, which I didn't know about until this week.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Classification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Classification
Level 4 still a LONG time coming. That was underscored for me by this interview:
http://thisweekinstartups.com/george-hotz-commaai/ http://thisweekinstartups.com/george-hotz-commaai/
George is kind of arrogant and brash... but even he says "I don't know anything about level 4". Everyone thinks level 3 and 4 are the same thing, but now that I've heard him dismiss level 4, that actually gives me more confidence in his startup.
Those are two completely different things!!!
Google has been working on self-driving cars since 2009, and the DARPA challenges were around 2005-2007. We're not even at level 3. Level 4 might not come for decades after that.
- fastball 10y agoPretty sure we are at level 3 already. Tesla has "good enough" L3 already on the road, and I highly doubt Tesla's Autopilot is anywhere near as sophisticated as what Google is working on in their labs.
- latortuga 10y agoDoesn't Tesla's Summon feature qualify as Level 4?
- dmoy 10y agoNot really, no. L4 is talking about the whole trip.
- tim333 10y ago"Level 4: The vehicle performs all safety-critical functions for the entire trip, with the driver not expected to control the vehicle at any time." You can get on a bus that does that now in Helsinki. Admittedly they are slow and on set routes but even so they're there. http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/18/technology/self-driving-bus-helsinki-finland/ http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/18/technology/self-driving-bus-...
- dilemma 10y agoPreprogrammed paths is absolutely not what is meant by self-driving vehicles. Preprogrammed means a human has made all the decisions an actual self-driving vehicle would need to make.
- tim333 10y agoThough whatever you call them there's a lot of potential for that kind of stuff. There are a lot of busses in the world and if they can drive themselves that's a big thing even if it is on set routes. Plus trucks driving themselves on certain prepared interstates with humans to take over for the last 10 miles could be big.
- dilemma 10y agoThey're not "driving themselves" in either case. They are executing a program. Problem is, that makes them rigid and unable to handle anything unplanned for.
- tim333 10y agoThat was an interesting Hotz interview.