I'm not sure there is a productive conversation to be had. Even in the very unlikely case of the US changing their policy, there's nothing stopping anyone else

I'm not sure there is a productive conversation to be had. Even in the very unlikely case of the US changing their policy, there's nothing stopping anyone else. Even in the very unlikely event that hackers can agree to how the Internet in its implementation should protect basic humans rights, it will be hindered by business interests. At this point we more or less have wait until robustness rather than growth becomes a competitive advantage and with the shift to Asia this could be many centuries.