> Just because those tools exist doesn't > mean people use them. But, oh, they do! At least there in most of the jobs you will deal either with Symfony or wi

> Just because those tools exist doesn't > mean people use them. But, oh, they do! At least there in most of the jobs you will deal either with Symfony or with Laravel. > here were decent libraries and high quality code back in > 2008 (and 2000) but people didn't necessarily use them. Please, name a couple from each year. PHP started to mature since PHP 5 and that was released in 2004. While you could have working and tolerable code before that the language was lacking features for high quality code. Maybe if you reframe that as "high quality given the limitations" I'd accept that. But I am seriously curious what would you consider high quality PHP libs from 2000.