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> So many strongly typed shells exist already. But no one uses them, and no one is building an ecosystem around them. That's what I'm hoping will change thanks

> So many strongly typed shells exist already. But no one uses them, and no one is building an ecosystem around them. That's what I'm hoping will change thanks to this announcement. Even if it's not PowerShell itself, if a different strongly-typed shell gets traction because of this, I will be happy. That's what I was trying to say with my comment.

njkanjsd 10y ago
> But no one uses them, and no one is building an ecosystem around them. About as many people that use powershell, the only people I've seen say nice things about powershell are microshit fanboys that don't know any better. Not sure what you mean by 'ecosystem'.. a very ambiguous term. Linux already has a 'shell ecosystem' far superior to anything windows has. > Even if it's not PowerShell itself, if a different strongly-typed shell gets traction because of this, I will be happy. I don't see why it would, or why powershell would help it get traction. There is not really a good reason to even use a strongly-typed shell, if you need strong typing why not just use a proper programming language? If you need interactivity why not use a REPL? > That's what I'm hoping will change thanks to this announcement. No self-respecting OSS developer would want to use powershell.
- nailer 10y ago
  > the only people I've seen say nice things about powershell are microshit fanboys that don't know any better. I really like Powershell. If you install RHEL or Fedora I'm the 'mikem' in the default /etc/sudoers file.
  - njkanjsd 10y ago
    Uh, okay?
    - nailer 10y ago
      I've been using bash for 20 years, trained a few hundred RHCEs, and spent a large part of my life working for Red Hat and then IBM's dedicated Linux group. So yeah maybe I don't know any better, but that's because I haven't encountered it before. Piping objects to 'where' and 'select' is simply a better approach than scraping text. The implementation details - having to use .net to make cmdlets - aren't great but the fundamental idea of powershell is excellent.
      - njkanjsd 10y ago
        > I've been using bash for 20 years, trained a few hundred RHCEs, and spent a large part of my life working for Red Hat and then IBM's dedicated Linux group Neat. Irrelevant. > So yeah maybe I don't know any better, but that's because I haven't encountered it before. Okay? > Piping objects to 'where' and 'select' is simply a better approach than scraping text. Why is it better? 'Simply'? Is this unique to powershell (Hint: No.)? > The implementation details - having to use .net to make cmdlets - aren't great but the fundamental idea of powershell is excellent. You understand that powershell literally has no new ideas of its own right? I mean you must since you read to this comment and several comments above say so and provide links to existing typed shells. You seem to be intentionally ignoring everything said just to promote powershell. You another microshill?
        sctb 10y ago
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        anonbanker 10y ago
        So, if you disagree with an HN celebrity, you can get banned? good thing my argument with tptacek happened before you came on-board.
        tomhoward 10y ago

njkanjsd 10y ago

> But no one uses them, and no one is building an ecosystem around them. About as many people that use powershell, the only people I've seen say nice things about powershell are microshit fanboys that don't know any better. Not sure what you mean by 'ecosystem'.. a very ambiguous term. Linux already has a 'shell ecosystem' far superior to anything windows has. > Even if it's not PowerShell itself, if a different strongly-typed shell gets traction because of this, I will be happy. I don't see why it would, or why powershell would help it get traction. There is not really a good reason to even use a strongly-typed shell, if you need strong typing why not just use a proper programming language? If you need interactivity why not use a REPL? > That's what I'm hoping will change thanks to this announcement. No self-respecting OSS developer would want to use powershell.

nailer 10y ago
> the only people I've seen say nice things about powershell are microshit fanboys that don't know any better. I really like Powershell. If you install RHEL or Fedora I'm the 'mikem' in the default /etc/sudoers file.
- njkanjsd 10y ago
  Uh, okay?
  - nailer 10y ago
    I've been using bash for 20 years, trained a few hundred RHCEs, and spent a large part of my life working for Red Hat and then IBM's dedicated Linux group. So yeah maybe I don't know any better, but that's because I haven't encountered it before. Piping objects to 'where' and 'select' is simply a better approach than scraping text. The implementation details - having to use .net to make cmdlets - aren't great but the fundamental idea of powershell is excellent.
    - njkanjsd 10y ago
      > I've been using bash for 20 years, trained a few hundred RHCEs, and spent a large part of my life working for Red Hat and then IBM's dedicated Linux group Neat. Irrelevant. > So yeah maybe I don't know any better, but that's because I haven't encountered it before. Okay? > Piping objects to 'where' and 'select' is simply a better approach than scraping text. Why is it better? 'Simply'? Is this unique to powershell (Hint: No.)? > The implementation details - having to use .net to make cmdlets - aren't great but the fundamental idea of powershell is excellent. You understand that powershell literally has no new ideas of its own right? I mean you must since you read to this comment and several comments above say so and provide links to existing typed shells. You seem to be intentionally ignoring everything said just to promote powershell. You another microshill?
      - sctb 10y ago
        We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the guidelines. If you'd like to commit to only commenting civilly and substantively, you can email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll happily unban the account if we believe you'll do so.
        anonbanker 10y ago
        So, if you disagree with an HN celebrity, you can get banned? good thing my argument with tptacek happened before you came on-board.
        tomhoward 10y ago