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Oh yes, the Alt+Space button, which I still use for windows restores (Alt+Space+R) instead of Win+Down for some reason. And for the occasional rescue of window

Oh yes, the Alt+Space button, which I still use for windows restores (Alt+Space+R) instead of Win+Down for some reason. And for the occasional rescue of windows that have entirely escaped by screens.

what_ever 10y ago
And Alt+Space+x for full screen. Also > A single click on the button brings up the system menu. I never bothered about that much, because this button isn't really meant to be single clicked I disagree here. I feel single click is more useful than the the double click to close.
- JoBrad 10y ago
  But isn't "single-click, move mouse, single click" much more work than double-click?
  - what_ever 10y ago
    Alt + F4? X button in the top right corner? I never single clicked on top left corner just to be clear - just used Alt + Space.
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madaxe_again 10y ago
Ditto - although another old friend, alt-enter, appears to be now only intermittently supported, with some apps now using f11, or even ctrl-f, which IMHO should always be "find". Ms have a long track record of supporting legacy interactions and interfaces - for instance, you could still use fileman and progman in win7, although by that stage it did involve installing them yourself. They shipped with every version up to xp. http://chorusofone.no-ip.org/computerstuff/win7progman.html http://chorusofone.no-ip.org/computerstuff/win7progman.html
- Senji 10y ago
  Anything remotely interacting with DirectX or OpenGL still supports Alt+enter for fullscreen. ( well most do anyway )
huhtenberg 10y ago
> occasional rescue That's pretty much the only way to get offscreen windows back onto the desktop - "Alt+Space, M, Left arrow, Up arrow".
- tychuz 10y ago
  I do alt+space, m, left arrow and then move my mouse - window jumps to the mouse. Some arcane stuff to recover your window...
- OkGoDoIt 10y ago
  Win+left/right arrow also works for this since Windows 7
  - expiredtofu 10y ago
    Not for subwindows, like dialog boxes that take focus on a program.
- HCIdivision17 10y ago
  It's gotten more interesting in Windows 10. With a hi-res surface, scaling often plonks screens in confusing and arbitrary places when docking/undocking. My method is now something like "Alt+Space, M, Hold Left for a few seconds, Hold Up for a few seconds, Hold right for twice as long as Left, Hold Down for twice as long as Up, etc". And it won't work at all on Java sub-windows, who just scale and move any which way. And hitting Win-Left or Win-Right may not even snap the window to a viewport, meaning the secret button nor the red X are at a window extreme. It's certainly added a fun little extra layer of puzzle to my life. I bet this is how Catherine felt about Atrus' door puzzle locks as she wandered Myst Island.
  - Piskvorrr 10y ago
    Seriously? Undock leaves windows offscreen? Well, 10 < 95, I guess.
klank 10y ago
"alt+space e p" is still how I paste in a command window since you couldn't ctrl+v for ages.
- shabble 10y ago
  Didn't Shift-Insert work for that? (I have vague memories, but it's been a long time since I've fought with it) Edit: assuming you have a keyboard with an insert key, and that it's not in a ridiculous location, of course.
mattmanser 10y ago
To recover lost windows without using alt you can actually hover over the window in the task bar. Eventually a small representation will pop-up that you can right click-on and choose maximise, minimise, move, etc.

Oh yes, the Alt+Space button, which I still use for windows restores (Alt+Space+R) instead of Win+Down for some reason. And for the occasional rescue of windows that have entirely escaped by screens.

what_ever 10y ago

And Alt+Space+x for full screen. Also > A single click on the button brings up the system menu. I never bothered about that much, because this button isn't really meant to be single clicked I disagree here. I feel single click is more useful than the the double click to close.

JoBrad 10y ago
But isn't "single-click, move mouse, single click" much more work than double-click?
- what_ever 10y ago
  Alt + F4? X button in the top right corner? I never single clicked on top left corner just to be clear - just used Alt + Space.
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madaxe_again 10y ago

Ditto - although another old friend, alt-enter, appears to be now only intermittently supported, with some apps now using f11, or even ctrl-f, which IMHO should always be "find". Ms have a long track record of supporting legacy interactions and interfaces - for instance, you could still use fileman and progman in win7, although by that stage it did involve installing them yourself. They shipped with every version up to xp. http://chorusofone.no-ip.org/computerstuff/win7progman.html http://chorusofone.no-ip.org/computerstuff/win7progman.html

Senji 10y ago
Anything remotely interacting with DirectX or OpenGL still supports Alt+enter for fullscreen. ( well most do anyway )

huhtenberg 10y ago

> occasional rescue That's pretty much the only way to get offscreen windows back onto the desktop - "Alt+Space, M, Left arrow, Up arrow".

tychuz 10y ago
I do alt+space, m, left arrow and then move my mouse - window jumps to the mouse. Some arcane stuff to recover your window...
OkGoDoIt 10y ago
Win+left/right arrow also works for this since Windows 7
- expiredtofu 10y ago
  Not for subwindows, like dialog boxes that take focus on a program.
HCIdivision17 10y ago
It's gotten more interesting in Windows 10. With a hi-res surface, scaling often plonks screens in confusing and arbitrary places when docking/undocking. My method is now something like "Alt+Space, M, Hold Left for a few seconds, Hold Up for a few seconds, Hold right for twice as long as Left, Hold Down for twice as long as Up, etc". And it won't work at all on Java sub-windows, who just scale and move any which way. And hitting Win-Left or Win-Right may not even snap the window to a viewport, meaning the secret button nor the red X are at a window extreme. It's certainly added a fun little extra layer of puzzle to my life. I bet this is how Catherine felt about Atrus' door puzzle locks as she wandered Myst Island.
- Piskvorrr 10y ago
  Seriously? Undock leaves windows offscreen? Well, 10 < 95, I guess.

klank 10y ago

"alt+space e p" is still how I paste in a command window since you couldn't ctrl+v for ages.

shabble 10y ago
Didn't Shift-Insert work for that? (I have vague memories, but it's been a long time since I've fought with it) Edit: assuming you have a keyboard with an insert key, and that it's not in a ridiculous location, of course.

mattmanser 10y ago

To recover lost windows without using alt you can actually hover over the window in the task bar. Eventually a small representation will pop-up that you can right click-on and choose maximise, minimise, move, etc.