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There's some lawsuits over MS forcing/tricking people into "upgrading" to Windows 10. This is something entirely different; this is MS not providing software u

There's some lawsuits over MS forcing/tricking people into "upgrading" to Windows 10. This is something entirely different; this is MS not providing software updates in the way that some people would prefer. Customers don't have a right to tell their vendors exactly how to provide ongoing services. If you don't like it, find a better vendor. Also, the only successful lawsuit I've heard of against MS recently was the one where some woman sued them in small-claims court over the forced upgrade. $5k or $10k or whatever is a nice little chunk of money for some middle-class person who runs Windows Home for looking at Facebook and cat videos, but it's nothing to some company with dozens of employees or more that relies on their computing systems for running the business. MS just let that one slide because the cost to send a lawyer out wasn't even worth it, and the forced upgrades are pretty much all over at this point anyway; they're making more money now with people "upgraded" than they lost in a few piddly small-claims lawsuits. For a larger company that tries to sue because one of the bundled updates screws up their ERP system, MS isn't going to just pay out millions on that, they're going to crush that company in litigation costs, using their EULA which has been proven in court. Relying on the threat of a lawsuit against MS to keep your business alive is suicide; MS will win and your company will lose. If you don't like the way their software works, get different software.

syshum 10y ago
There will be a class action over windows 10, and it not assured that MS will win as you seem to think. Sorry that is just not how any of this works. Further your continued instance that MS can literately do anything it wants and if you do not like it "get different software" is less than useless and not relevant.
creshal 10y ago
> using their EULA which has been proven in court. No. Microsoft's EULA is void in large parts of Europe. Consumer protection laws are very strong over here.
- Grishnakh 10y ago
  I'd love to see MS force a showdown over this: since the EU is dumb enough to run all their computers on Windows, MS could force them to make an exception for them, or else. What's the EU going to do when all their government computers suddenly shut down? Toss Satya in jail? He's in the US. You don't make yourself completely and utterly dependent on someone and then tell them how to behave.
  - creshal 10y ago
    > I'd love to see MS force a showdown over this Slow down with your corporate boner. In the past, Microsoft has caved in to every single government demand yet. IE-free Windows, encryption-free Windows NT, … you name it, Microsoft did it and wagged their tail happily.
    - Grishnakh 10y ago
      That's too bad; hopefully under Satya's leadership they'll stop this pathetic capitulation, and show the EU government who's really boss. It would be a great lesson on the dangers of outsourcing your critical infrastructure to a foreign corporation.

syshum 10y ago

There will be a class action over windows 10, and it not assured that MS will win as you seem to think. Sorry that is just not how any of this works. Further your continued instance that MS can literately do anything it wants and if you do not like it "get different software" is less than useless and not relevant.

creshal 10y ago

> using their EULA which has been proven in court. No. Microsoft's EULA is void in large parts of Europe. Consumer protection laws are very strong over here.

Grishnakh 10y ago
I'd love to see MS force a showdown over this: since the EU is dumb enough to run all their computers on Windows, MS could force them to make an exception for them, or else. What's the EU going to do when all their government computers suddenly shut down? Toss Satya in jail? He's in the US. You don't make yourself completely and utterly dependent on someone and then tell them how to behave.
- creshal 10y ago
  > I'd love to see MS force a showdown over this Slow down with your corporate boner. In the past, Microsoft has caved in to every single government demand yet. IE-free Windows, encryption-free Windows NT, … you name it, Microsoft did it and wagged their tail happily.
  - Grishnakh 10y ago
    That's too bad; hopefully under Satya's leadership they'll stop this pathetic capitulation, and show the EU government who's really boss. It would be a great lesson on the dangers of outsourcing your critical infrastructure to a foreign corporation.