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>I completely disagree with this, and believe this type of belief is one of the core problems in society. That's a perfectly valid opinion, however the law sta
by Grishnakh 10y ago
>I completely disagree with this, and believe this type of belief is one of the core problems in society.
That's a perfectly valid opinion, however the law states otherwise; our society and legal system both reward amoral thinking in corporations.
>Corporations are just a social organization of people, and the people of that organization absolutely have ethical and moral obligations.
You can believe this all you want, but the people who run the largest corporations disagree, and have no ethics or morals; they're sociopaths. As a society, we reward this by continuing to support companies run by sociopaths, and also by voting for sociopaths to lead our governments. So you can believe whatever you want about how corporations and the people who run them should act, but most people disagree with you implicitly, based on their voting and buying decisions.
>Choosing to join a social organization like a corporation does not absolve you of those obligations.
You can claim this, but you have absolutely no way of enforcing your belief. Similarly, I could claim that you are personally obligated to buy me a house, and that I think it's the moral thing to do, but I have absolutely no way to enforce this opinion.
>For most government regulating entities a monopoly is created when a company reaches over 80/90% market share in a given product category, in the 1990's Microsoft was a clear monopoly in the personal computing market. Today that is debatable if you include Smartphones, Tablets and other devices in the Category of "Personal Computers"
If you include those, then MS is nowhere near a monopoly. Windows Phone is a joke. But if you narrow things down to PCs, then it's murkier, but even here last I heard they had less than 90% thanks to the rise of Apple mainly.
>However simply saying "There is an alternative" does not in fact legally mean there is not a monopoly.
That's true, but the other thing you're missing, just as you missed with your stuff about ethics above, is enforcement: how exactly do you propose to enforce your opinion? You have no way to; all you can do is hope the government will agree with you and act accordingly. There is zero evidence of this, and instead plenty of evidence that MS will be able to do whatever they want, within reason. So your only choices are to suffer and whine, or switch.
>Most people do not actively seek an Operating System, they use what ever operating system is supplied by the manufacturer of the devices
Then why are people actively seeking out Macs and iPhones? People who shop for Macbooks don't even bother looking at alternatives, because they do NOT want to run Windows.
>MS was charged with was using Vertical Conclusions to lock out alternative operating systems like Linux
They were charged, but what happened? Nothing.
> Car makers did similar things in the early day with Maintenance, accessories and parts. this resulted in MASSIVE regulation of the Automotive manufacturing industry and passage of the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act which electronics companies today like to pretend does not exist
A lot of car dealerships pretend that doesn't exist too, but at least there's some legal teeth there. But M-M has almost nothing to do with MS or operating systems or the topic at hand. There is zero evidence that the government is going to pass any legislation to deal with MS's market dominance, so you can either suck it up or find an alternative.
>Sadly with Windows 10, they have back peddled even on these provisions, no longer are browsers able to automatically set themselves as default, a user must navigate to the Default Applications Settings and manually change these.
Ok, so what are you going to do about it? This just proves my point: hoping for any kind of relief from the government is foolish in the extreme. You can either remain a victim, or you can leave.
- syshum 10y agoSo basically your defeatist attitude is simply never to discuss these topics because it is likely impossible to change. Why do you come to places like this to discuss things if you do not actually want to discuss anything. As to what I am going to do about it... as I already stated several times, you seem to keep skipping that parts, I have already left the Microsoft Ecosystem, did many decades ago. that does not mean however I will not continue to address their bad actions publicly when ever I can. You see it as pointless, maybe it is, but silently going into the night is just as pointless
- syshum 10y agoAnd one other thing, Simply choosing other software is pointless unless you can get the majority of users to follow you or get enough users to make a large enough PR problem for the offending company they must react. (as MS has done several times when complaints have reached critical mass) one way to do that is Continue to bring up this issues in public forums, to educate the users of these software products. One way not to do that is to continue to be a defeatist and say "well the world sucks and is run by sociopaths so i give up" which is what your posts are about
- Grishnakh 10y agoNo, you completely misunderstand. My advice doesn't even apply to you really, because apparently you took my advice years ago, since you said you already left the MS ecosystem. I'm not being defeatist, I'm pushing people to look for alternatives, because MS is not going to turn into a good corporate citizen, nor is the government going to force them to. If people don't like getting screwed over, it's their responsibility to find a vendor that won't. Apparently, you even agree with me, because you've done just that. I'm just pushing for everyone else to do the same. But sitting around waiting for everyone else to follow you isn't going to work; if everyone has that mentality, then nothing will change.