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That works both ways. If you believe parents shouldn't bring their children to the office space because they should respect you and your desire for children not

That works both ways. If you believe parents shouldn't bring their children to the office space because they should respect you and your desire for children not to be there, then it's only reasonable that you should respect their desire to have their children with them. You do know realize that an office space means a space for employees to do work for someone who is paying them. It is not a space for their children or parents or grand-parents or cousins or favorite stuff toys.

0xfeba 10y ago
I think you're relying too much on the photo-op images rather than the points of the story text itself. An employer offering in-house childcare has benefits, this does not necessarily mean your kid will be sitting on your desk and you will be taking care of it.
- oh_sigh 10y ago
  OP specifically referenced the image, so I think it's fair to focus on the image in this thread.
munificent 10y ago
Like any space, an office space is whatever the people occupying it choose to make it. We don't live in a videogame where all of the architecture and its uses are hardcoded. We aren't sims. I've been in office spaces that were spaces for quiet work, heated discussions, listening to music together, nerf battlegrounds, emotional reconciliation, alcohol-infused parties, Quake tournaments, and philosophical debate. Humans and their activities defy simple categorization, despite how much our industrial mindset might encourage us to treat them—us—as cogs in a machine.
codemac 10y ago
That's a recent historical development, and one could even say it's rooted in deep gendered thinking in the roles of men and women.
- icebraining 10y ago
  That's a recent historical development Really? When were office spaces expected to have children around?
  - whiddershins 10y ago
    Office spaces are a relatively recent historical development.
- guitarbill 10y ago
  or - you know - it's just practical, not to have kids around people trying to concentrate? still, there were times when you could send your kids to work. that sort of thing is frowned upon/illegal now.
  - codemac 10y ago
    No, the practical answer is to treat humans with respect and dignity, and give them office space that is private with a door that closes. The fact that we are so willing to be treated so poorly and then blame parents with young children for noise is beyond me. You know my office used to have speakers in it? That we played music on? That bothered no one because the door was closed!? Oh the horror.
jellicle 10y ago
Wait, what? This is Hacker News, where bringing your seven mangy dogs to the office is practically required. I know they get in the way of the ping-pong sometimes, and gnaw on the cables for the PS4, but you can just feed them some snacks from the jerky dispenser if they bug you too much.
awesomerobot 10y ago
Have you heard of start-ups?

0xfeba 10y ago

I think you're relying too much on the photo-op images rather than the points of the story text itself. An employer offering in-house childcare has benefits, this does not necessarily mean your kid will be sitting on your desk and you will be taking care of it.

oh_sigh 10y ago
OP specifically referenced the image, so I think it's fair to focus on the image in this thread.

munificent 10y ago

Like any space, an office space is whatever the people occupying it choose to make it. We don't live in a videogame where all of the architecture and its uses are hardcoded. We aren't sims. I've been in office spaces that were spaces for quiet work, heated discussions, listening to music together, nerf battlegrounds, emotional reconciliation, alcohol-infused parties, Quake tournaments, and philosophical debate. Humans and their activities defy simple categorization, despite how much our industrial mindset might encourage us to treat them—us—as cogs in a machine.

codemac 10y ago

That's a recent historical development, and one could even say it's rooted in deep gendered thinking in the roles of men and women.

icebraining 10y ago
That's a recent historical development Really? When were office spaces expected to have children around?
- whiddershins 10y ago
  Office spaces are a relatively recent historical development.
guitarbill 10y ago
or - you know - it's just practical, not to have kids around people trying to concentrate? still, there were times when you could send your kids to work. that sort of thing is frowned upon/illegal now.
- codemac 10y ago
  No, the practical answer is to treat humans with respect and dignity, and give them office space that is private with a door that closes. The fact that we are so willing to be treated so poorly and then blame parents with young children for noise is beyond me. You know my office used to have speakers in it? That we played music on? That bothered no one because the door was closed!? Oh the horror.

jellicle 10y ago

Wait, what? This is Hacker News, where bringing your seven mangy dogs to the office is practically required. I know they get in the way of the ping-pong sometimes, and gnaw on the cables for the PS4, but you can just feed them some snacks from the jerky dispenser if they bug you too much.

awesomerobot 10y ago

Have you heard of start-ups?