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Oh, I feel your pain! There's too much fashion going on in this industry, and the high salaries and the youth rediscovering the same concepts from 40 years ago

Oh, I feel your pain! There's too much fashion going on in this industry, and the high salaries and the youth rediscovering the same concepts from 40 years ago doesn't help.. I mean, it's great to have this new tech and all, but when you're trying to build something to last some years, sometimes it's hard to filter the crap between all the buzzwords. It just reinforces the thought that smart people should just leave this field entirely or search for other fields of knowledge (or business) where our knowledge of programming can be made of use. I'm 35 now, but I'm starting to realize that I will not have the patience to keep with all the crap just to be employable.. There are some areas where being old and experient is valuable. Philosophy, science, psychology, teaching, etc., are maybe some of them, but this industry is definitely not one of those areas. It makes me think that what I'm building now will some day be completely wiped out of existence..

tsunamifury 10y ago
https://youtu.be/zut2NLMVL_k https://youtu.be/zut2NLMVL_k "All my work will be obsolete by 2005" -Steve Jobs If you aren't willing to accept that obselence is part of life, then you are either building something you aren't passionate about or confused about the cruelty of time.
- pmyjavec 10y ago
  As inspirational as Steve Jobs was, he wasn't correct about everything, nor was he a brilliant engineer.
  - kafkaesq 10y ago
    Nor did anyone (in this thread) say he was. The quote has bounded context. And in that context, seems generally valid and applicable.
- jventura 10y ago
  I'd say it goes beyond than building physical or virtual things. I'm talking about something that resembles compound interests, where you build knowledge or experience over previous knowledge and experience such that in some years you are way ahead of where you are now. I'm basically saying that the high churning we have now does not give you enough time to build significant experiences that you can use later on in life, and, as such, it's the opposite of a good investment to the future. It is almost as we are only living for the present status, forgetting that on the future we will have less patience and energy to have to "re-learn" almost the same things.
bigger_cheese 10y ago
I think a lot of this churn can be sidestepped if you avoid startups and instead work for an "Enterprise" organisation. everything is much less cutting edge. In fact technology progression is pretty much glacial. If you look at what technology was popular 10-15 years ago then that's what will be in use in Enterprises now. Java web services is currently the big thing at my company. All the late 90's business apps which were in Visual Basic, Oracle Forms and Access are being rewritten as Java web services at the moment by an army of contractors. In another 10-15 years they will be rewritten again in the language Du Jour of today probably Go. It's an endless cycle.

tsunamifury 10y ago

https://youtu.be/zut2NLMVL_k https://youtu.be/zut2NLMVL_k "All my work will be obsolete by 2005" -Steve Jobs If you aren't willing to accept that obselence is part of life, then you are either building something you aren't passionate about or confused about the cruelty of time.

pmyjavec 10y ago
As inspirational as Steve Jobs was, he wasn't correct about everything, nor was he a brilliant engineer.
- kafkaesq 10y ago
  Nor did anyone (in this thread) say he was. The quote has bounded context. And in that context, seems generally valid and applicable.
jventura 10y ago
I'd say it goes beyond than building physical or virtual things. I'm talking about something that resembles compound interests, where you build knowledge or experience over previous knowledge and experience such that in some years you are way ahead of where you are now. I'm basically saying that the high churning we have now does not give you enough time to build significant experiences that you can use later on in life, and, as such, it's the opposite of a good investment to the future. It is almost as we are only living for the present status, forgetting that on the future we will have less patience and energy to have to "re-learn" almost the same things.

bigger_cheese 10y ago

I think a lot of this churn can be sidestepped if you avoid startups and instead work for an "Enterprise" organisation. everything is much less cutting edge. In fact technology progression is pretty much glacial. If you look at what technology was popular 10-15 years ago then that's what will be in use in Enterprises now. Java web services is currently the big thing at my company. All the late 90's business apps which were in Visual Basic, Oracle Forms and Access are being rewritten as Java web services at the moment by an army of contractors. In another 10-15 years they will be rewritten again in the language Du Jour of today probably Go. It's an endless cycle.