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It's scary seeing all of these lay-offs happening. I'd hate to be looking for a software engineering job right now.

sawthat 10y ago
The article seemed to imply they are letting go hardware people to focus on software.
ryandrake 10y ago
If you listen to tech CEOs, there's this huge "shortage of software engineers". Surely any former Cisco employee with software experience will be snapped up within days by all these tech companies desperately searching for tech talent.... Any day now....
- lsiebert 10y ago
  Hardware focused Engineers like EEs are probably who are being let go.
- jdale27 10y ago
  If you listen to tech CEOs, there's this huge "shortage of software engineers". There is no shortage of software engineers. What there is, in the eyes of those CEOs, is a shortage of H1-B visas -- i.e., cheap labor from abroad with low mobility. Of course, the alternative is to invest in training citizens and permanent residents, who will then go and get higher-paying jobs elsewhere. So the myth of the software engineer shortage lives on...
  - conqrr 10y ago
    Low mobility? Immigrants on H1-B can change employers.
    - abraham_s 10y ago
      They can, but it is significantly complicated and expensive than for a non H1B
    - dmix 10y ago
      I can assure you most H1-B employees would be scared to mess with a good thing. Unless they are well experienced with H1-B or their job offer is quality w/ promises of an immigration lawyer taking care of it.
      - Hydraulix989 10y ago
        Yes, several of my friends are "stuck" working for big companies that people on HN wouldn't want to work for until they get their green cards.
- 72deluxe 10y ago
  Shortage in specific languages or areas or just a vague "software engineer"?
- jedberg 10y ago
  There is a shortage of good software engineers. There are many people currently employed who call themselves software engineers but I'm not sure what they're actually doing. I saw this a lot when I was doing hiring -- people who can't even write simple loops or know what 12 mod 5 is.
BinaryIdiot 10y ago
> I'd hate to be looking for a software engineering job right now Why? These Cisco lay-offs are hardware engineering related and the other ones are not nearly as big and are pretty typical (unfortunately). Software engineering is not only in HUGE demand but it's growing incredibly quickly. I have no idea how the hardware engineering space is behaving but software is off the charts.
bogomipz 10y ago
What other other lay offs have you seen? Cisco is hiring software engineers. Look at their acquisitions in the last couple of years and they are software companies. They have a big focus on big data for security analytics.

The article seemed to imply they are letting go hardware people to focus on software.

If you listen to tech CEOs, there's this huge "shortage of software engineers". Surely any former Cisco employee with software experience will be snapped up within days by all these tech companies desperately searching for tech talent.... Any day now....

lsiebert 10y ago
Hardware focused Engineers like EEs are probably who are being let go.
jdale27 10y ago
If you listen to tech CEOs, there's this huge "shortage of software engineers". There is no shortage of software engineers. What there is, in the eyes of those CEOs, is a shortage of H1-B visas -- i.e., cheap labor from abroad with low mobility. Of course, the alternative is to invest in training citizens and permanent residents, who will then go and get higher-paying jobs elsewhere. So the myth of the software engineer shortage lives on...
- conqrr 10y ago
  Low mobility? Immigrants on H1-B can change employers.
  - abraham_s 10y ago
    They can, but it is significantly complicated and expensive than for a non H1B
  - dmix 10y ago
    I can assure you most H1-B employees would be scared to mess with a good thing. Unless they are well experienced with H1-B or their job offer is quality w/ promises of an immigration lawyer taking care of it.
    - Hydraulix989 10y ago
      Yes, several of my friends are "stuck" working for big companies that people on HN wouldn't want to work for until they get their green cards.
72deluxe 10y ago
Shortage in specific languages or areas or just a vague "software engineer"?
jedberg 10y ago
There is a shortage of good software engineers. There are many people currently employed who call themselves software engineers but I'm not sure what they're actually doing. I saw this a lot when I was doing hiring -- people who can't even write simple loops or know what 12 mod 5 is.

BinaryIdiot 10y ago

> I'd hate to be looking for a software engineering job right now Why? These Cisco lay-offs are hardware engineering related and the other ones are not nearly as big and are pretty typical (unfortunately). Software engineering is not only in HUGE demand but it's growing incredibly quickly. I have no idea how the hardware engineering space is behaving but software is off the charts.

bogomipz 10y ago

What other other lay offs have you seen? Cisco is hiring software engineers. Look at their acquisitions in the last couple of years and they are software companies. They have a big focus on big data for security analytics.